Holy shit, its 2018 and you fuckers are blowing up email that goes to a
phone over this bullshit???
On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 9:20 PM nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 129 lines Marcus, but that isn't what we're talking about really, is it?> Marcus, but that isn't what we're talking about really, is it?
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> What do you think about the artist name "Beatwife," Marcus?
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> *From:* Marcus Kreitzer <markreitzer@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 9:50 PM
> *To:* nat hawks; brit walker
> *Cc:* Basma O; Clint Anderson; 22tape; J L; Mauro; idm@hyperreal.org
> *Subject:* Re: beatwife podcast
>
> Why does nat hawkes alternate between apologizing and continuing to say
> the things he was apologizing for?
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> --
> Marcus Kreitzer
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> On Mar 25, 2018, 9:29 PM -0400, brit walker <bwalker.sd@gmail.com>, wrote:
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> thanks for this. couldn’t agree more.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 25, 2018, at 9:34 AM, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> (SORRY ABOUT MULTI-POSTING, but got a weird bounce-back email and wanted
> to make sure this got through.)
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> There is sea change happening in updating the ways we perceive certain
> groups.
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> historically, I have always found this to be an intelligent (sorry) and
> open-minded group, but to be honest, I'm a disappointed with many people's
> response.
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> No one is saying someone with a sad, ignorant name like this should be
> 'banned.' Though if I was a festival or venue or label I wouldn't touch a
> person with this detestable name.
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> What I think should be obvious is that the name 'beatwife' is normalizing
> violence against women. Violence against women is a horrid, world-wide
> crisis that has been going on since the dawn of time and it is now in our
> power
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> to limit it, but we need to see how out-in-the-open it is.
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> 'hang black' 'kill fags' ... ha ha... no. stupid, ignorant,
> unacceptable. yes, someone dope can use this name, sure. but they need to
> know that it's offensive, and if you aren't offended you are part of the
> problem.
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> maybe it's because i have a daughter... maybe it's because i'm a
> highschool teacher of young women who have been the victims of violence
> against them and seen what it does to their lives.
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> VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN IS FUCKING HORRIBLE.
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> 'BEATWIFE' is an UNACCEPTABLE name.
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> this person needs to know this, his label needs to know this.
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> SHAME on orb magazine for supporting this artist. hell, SHAME ON BANDCAMP
> FOR NOT DELETING HIS ACCOUNT. I'm going to contact both avenues now
> regarding this
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> The time to look the other way with this sort of shit is over.
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> It's not OK.
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> and to state what should also be obvious, electronic music has struggled
> against being a boy's club also for way too long... shit like this does
> not help.
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> imagine being a female electronic music artist and reading the discussion
> happening here. imagine how unsupported you would feel. if i was a
> female i would tell all who can't accept the obvious evils here to @#$#$^#@.
>
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> I just emailed this to his label...
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>
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> "it recently came to my attention that you have an artist named BEATWIFE
> on your roster. This is a disgusting, unacceptable name.
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> PLEASE ASK HIM TO IMMEDIATELY CHANGE HIS NAME.
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> Violence against women is horrible and this 'play on words name' is not
> funny.
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> If you don't force him to change his name or drop him YOU ARE PART OF THE
> PROBLEM.
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> please stop helping to normalize violence against women.
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> THANK YOU! Peace."
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