why do you assume things so much nat
quoted 94 lines On 25 Mar 2018, at 18:50, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> wrote:> On 25 Mar 2018, at 18:50, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Sure, i'll take that.
> Do you not see anything wrong with the artist title 'beatwife'?
> Seriously?
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> I work with students on a daily basis who have domestic violence in their home on a nearly daily basis.
> I work with students on a daily basis who are constant victims themselves of domestic violence.
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> normalizing violence against women is unacceptable. completely. it's disgusting.
> maybe your personal sphere has not been touched by violence against women.
> THEN YOU ARE PRIVILEGED!!!! (i'm also in this boat)
> do you not see that?
> most families in this world have been touched by domestic violence. hell, something like 1-in-5 women in this world have been raped.
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> 'beatwife' ...really? it's 2018.
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> we can do better. we need to do better.
> giving artistic license with hate like this makes my stomach turn.
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> this artist name is making light of horrible reality for so many.
> being a white male myself, i haven't been on the receiving end of this sort of thing. but many are.
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> it's time for us all to grow up a little, and consider those that deserve better.
> the privilege party is over.
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> From: Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 12:40 PM
> To: IDM List
> Subject: Re: beatwife podcast
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> dude. don’t be a self righteous dick.
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>> On 25 Mar 2018, at 18:34, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com <mailto:natbot@hotmail.com>> wrote:
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>> (SORRY ABOUT MULTI-POSTING, but got a weird bounce-back email and wanted to make sure this got through.)
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>> There is sea change happening in updating the ways we perceive certain groups.
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>> historically, I have always found this to be an intelligent (sorry) and open-minded group, but to be honest, I'm a disappointed with many people's response.
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>> No one is saying someone with a sad, ignorant name like this should be 'banned.' Though if I was a festival or venue or label I wouldn't touch a person with this detestable name.
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>> What I think should be obvious is that the name 'beatwife' is normalizing violence against women. Violence against women is a horrid, world-wide crisis that has been going on since the dawn of time and it is now in our power
>> to limit it, but we need to see how out-in-the-open it is.
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>> 'hang black' 'kill fags' ... ha ha... no. stupid, ignorant, unacceptable. yes, someone dope can use this name, sure. but they need to know that it's offensive, and if you aren't offended you are part of the problem.
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>> maybe it's because i have a daughter... maybe it's because i'm a highschool teacher of young women who have been the victims of violence against them and seen what it does to their lives.
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>> VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN IS FUCKING HORRIBLE.
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>> 'BEATWIFE' is an UNACCEPTABLE name.
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>> this person needs to know this, his label needs to know this.
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>> SHAME on orb magazine for supporting this artist. hell, SHAME ON BANDCAMP FOR NOT DELETING HIS ACCOUNT. I'm going to contact both avenues now regarding this
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>> The time to look the other way with this sort of shit is over.
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>> It's not OK.
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>> and to state what should also be obvious, electronic music has struggled against being a boy's club also for way too long... shit like this does not help.
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>> imagine being a female electronic music artist and reading the discussion happening here. imagine how unsupported you would feel. if i was a female i would tell all who can't accept the obvious evils here to @#$#$^#@.
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>> I just emailed this to his label...
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>> "it recently came to my attention that you have an artist named BEATWIFE on your roster. This is a disgusting, unacceptable name.
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>> PLEASE ASK HIM TO IMMEDIATELY CHANGE HIS NAME.
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>> Violence against women is horrible and this 'play on words name' is not funny.
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>> If you don't force him to change his name or drop him YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
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>> please stop helping to normalize violence against women.
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>> THANK YOU! Peace."