Jason Williams" <orcalounger@hotmail.com> writes:
quoted 2 lines The US is the freest country in the world, and being one of the more
>The US is the freest country in the world, and being one of the more
>democratic ones, over time, it will only get better.
That is simply not true. The Netherlands is far more liberal than the US
and Western freedom on a whole is exaggerated, as long as there are
unnecessary laws and censorship you are not entirely free.
And now to preserve this "freedom" you will no doubt see an increase in CCTV
and other security measures!
Democracy is also an illusion, a dictionary definition of democracy reveals:
1. Government by the people
Well, let me say that "the people" have very little say in what goes on in
the western countries, the decisions typically aren't even made by those
we elected but by those behind the scenes. Therefore voting at elections is
typically trivial/futile.
quoted 3 lines More and more people will live freer lives with higher standards of living,
>More and more people will live freer lives with higher standards of living,
>and I truly see america as bringing certain idealistic visions of utopia to
>the masses in a workable way.
As long as capitalism is in force you will see the opposite of that
happening.
quoted 2 lines Yes, we have some faults and some problems and some shady dealings going on
>Yes, we have some faults and some problems and some shady dealings going on
>behind the scenes.
No, not some but lots.
quoted 2 lines the US has what amounts to the closest thing to the ideal way of bringing
>the US has what amounts to the closest thing to the ideal way of bringing
>happiness to the most number of people right now.
I don't think thats entirely true, ask all those who have unnecessarily lost
their job while their employers are making record profits.
quoted 2 lines we are now justified to completely destroy them and remove any threat that
>we are now justified to completely destroy them and remove any threat that
>they would be able to do this again.
Tsk...tsk...tsk, shame on you, its attitudes like that...
quoted 2 lines I feel that any people out there that hate America, and want to hurt us,
>I feel that any people out there that hate America, and want to hurt us,
>should be destroyed before they get a chance.
...
quoted 3 lines Thus, by the law of nature, we need to take advantage of our superiority to
>Thus, by the law of nature, we need to take advantage of our superiority to
>wipe them out and remove any possibility of them getting better at
>attacking us.
Thus by the law of nature we should all still be swinging in the trees!
Human beings seem to be the only species on this planet who, when pissed off
by other members of their species feel the need to obliterate them, any
other species is concerned with the survival of its respected species, sure
animals will fight to establish territory or to gain a mate but they do not
fight to the death.
quoted 2 lines Also, I feel this event should become the perfect example of what religous
>Also, I feel this event should become the perfect example of what religous
>fundamentalism leads to.
religious fundamentalism has little to do with the recent events,
any nation/group(regardless of religion) who is pissed off with the US
could have taken similar action
quoted 1 line End religous intolerance NOW before it destroys all of humanity.
>End religous intolerance NOW before it destroys all of humanity.
With these attitudes you will be the one to destroy all of humanity
quoted 2 lines I am more pissed off at the muslims for their oppression of millions of
>I am more pissed off at the muslims for their oppression of millions of
>women worldwide than for the attacks that happened yesturday.
Do not confuse "islam" with "taliban"
quoted 1 line Just my opinion.
>Just my opinion.
Well, if Mr.Bush has similar opinions we are in for some horrible times
ahead
Bear in mind that Whoever did this did not do it because they are evil,
they did it for a reason that they obviously felt very strongly about.
The wtc was probably targeted because to to some it symbolises greed and we
in the west are very greedy indeed. And In thse troubled times you should
not let emotions get the better of facts.
ciao,
cheesemonster
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the United States has more nuclear weapons than the rest of the world put
together. It refuses to comply with international arms treaties, or allow
its arms programmes to be inspected by international observers. In 1998 and
1999 the US bombed four countries, Serbia, Sudan, Afghanistan and Iraq,
breaking international law each time. The United States is still the only
nation to have used its nuclear weapons in a war.
- John Pilger
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