(I can't believe I'm letting myself get sucked into
this)...
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From: "me makes you" <woolydogeater@hotmail.com>
To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:49 PM
Subject: RE: [idm] meat is murder
quoted 1 line i thought terrorism had been around for years.
> i thought terrorism had been around for years.
uh, yeah. it has...
quoted 1 line suddenly it strikes a little closer to home and
> suddenly it strikes a little closer to home and
every body must pay. if we
quoted 1 line didnt know who the terrorists were before, how do
> didnt know who the terrorists were before, how do
you plan on finding out
quoted 1 line now, when they are all going to be in hiding.
> now, when they are all going to be in hiding.
sounds and looks like the investigation might be
moving along quite well (relatively speaking)...that's
how we'll find out who's responsible.
weird that that concept didn't occur to you.
"everybody must pay"? who is saying that?
and what if the person or people who are responsible
for this are found out and caught? cool with you if
they're held responsible and punished?
quoted 2 lines i remember ireland when they
> i remember ireland when they
> implemented that 7 day holding scheme for suspected
terrorists. didnt
quoted 1 line matter if they where guilty or not, they would plead
> matter if they where guilty or not, they would plead
it just to get out of
quoted 2 lines the situation.
> the situation.
> maybe its because its the first time any damage has
been done on american
quoted 1 line soil, ever
> soil, ever
wow. which rock have you been living under? for
example, the wtc was hit in 1993 - 6 died, 1000
injured. or did you forget about that one?
and the oklahoma city bombing...that's not terrorism?
that's not "damage on american soil"? who gives a
flying fuck if timothy mcveigh was american...america
clearly wasn't very happy about that incident either.
does that make you feel better?
I can tell you this- whether or not you or I agree
with the death penalty or war, neither mr. mcveigh or
the people who attacked america yesterday are stupid
enough to not know that they've got early deaths to
look forward to when they're found out and caught.
again, whether or not you or I like it, that's the way
it works here. I'd suggest getting used to that
reality.
personally, I'll feel safer when the people who are
behind yesterday's brutal (yet wimpy) attacks (and any
in the past or future) are no longer living and able.
whoever they are, and wherever they're from.
how about you?
let me guess, you didn't know and love anybody who
died in yesterday's happenings?
guess what? me either (or not that I know of, yet).
but my feelings about it wouldn't be different, either
way.
and yes, I'd feel the same if this happened *anywhere*
in the world.
scary that people would be ashamed to live in a
country who "makes a big deal" out of a disaster like
yesterday's.
quoted 1 line (neither wars succeded)that this is so frightening to
>(neither wars succeded)that this is so frightening to
n.
quoted 1 line americans, but the rest of the world has been living
> americans, but the rest of the world has been living
with evil and death and
quoted 1 line murder. why the fuck is it so significant now??
> murder. why the fuck is it so significant now??
oh, i know, cause were
quoted 1 line american. grow up. as long as there is war and
> american. grow up. as long as there is war and
conflict in the world, over
quoted 2 lines money or god or whatever, no one is safe.
> money or god or whatever, no one is safe.
> i didnt hear anyone complaining too much about
moscow.
quoted 2 lines a couple of peeps on the radio, on the tv. it was
> a couple of peeps on the radio, on the tv. it was
> forgotten in a week. somehow i think this is going
to take a little bit
quoted 1 line longer(i can just see it"that fateful day on sept
> longer(i can just see it"that fateful day on sept
11, 2001").
were you in moscow when that went down? I bet it was
covered plenty there. you're in america, which serves
as a great reason why you're seeing yesterday's
happenings being thoroughly covered here. if you don't
understand or like that, then you've got a confusing
and frustrating life ahead you.
yikes.
I understand and happily accept that many people on
this list have VERY different views about things like
this. and I've enjoyed reading some of the more
"educated" messages, regardless of whether they're of
a different view or belief than mine, or not.
but I tend to keep my mouth shut about topics which I
don't feel that I know enough to open my mouth about.
(hence my extremely infrequent messages to this list.
well, that and my chronic shyness!)
but there's been some awfully ignorant, insensitive,
hateful, and downright stupid messages here in the
last day or two regarding the situation here in the
US.
on the other hand, I was in tears yesterday reading
some of the heartfelt messages from people around the
world on this list. for me, it felt good to read that
the listmembers from all over the world felt affected
enough to want to show concern about the victims, and
the country, and the world.
it was the first time in a LONG time (years) that I've
felt a sense of "community" here.
anyway.
dud.
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