quoted 5 lines <but I'd wager there's no law on the books having to do with a person's
> <but I'd wager there's no law on the books having to do with a person's
> inalieable right to copy>
>
> Getting way off topic - rights ought not to be things which a law gives
> you - they're things you have unless an existing law conflicts with them.
unfortunately the discussion seemed to be about LAW, which might be defined
as what the working government (which in theory reflects the view of the
people) decides are rights - so what ARE the laws and what OUGHT to be the
laws (according to you), may often be two different things - that this
happens is why we have freedom of speech, voting, and other very clunky and
inefficient and ways of changing law (inefficient? that may be an
understatement. perhaps the whole idea that we as people have any mechanism
for changing US law is a total farse)
obviously I don't believe LAW is the be all end all, or that our government
reflects the view of our people *laugh* - but there are two different
discussions - one is what is the law in this country, and one is what OUGHT
to be the law - there is no legal right that I know of to copy discs (I bet
that question has not gone before any legislative body) -
moral right? maybe. I certainly do agree with the guys who copy their
original cds and listen to the copies and keep the originals safe. man
that's fucking smart. as far as a philosophical discussion on what a
human's inalieable rights are, that's pretty galdern far off topic here, and
unless we all want to write 1000 page novels and pass them around, we ain't
gettin' anywhere with that on this list *laugh*
quoted 17 lines -----Original Message-----
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Trumm [mailto:aaron@nquit.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 5:55 PM
> To: idm@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [idm] copy protection (rant)
>
>
> > actually, making MP3s is irrelevant to this argument.. by
> > manufacturing copy-proof CDs, the RIAA is infringing on my right to make
> > as many copies of a CD as i want/need, provided it's only for personal
> > use, and provided i purchased the original. here is the real issue. part
> > of what i pay for when i purchase a CD is a limited license which allows
> > me to do this.
>
> I've never heard or read anywhere that said you have a legal right to
> copying cd's over and over as long as its for personal use. certainly the
> idea is that companies don't mind if you copy but ONLY if it's for
personal
quoted 1 line use, but I'd wager there's no law on the books having to do with a
> use, but I'd wager there's no law on the books having to do with a
person's
quoted 17 lines inalieable right to copy
> inalieable right to copy
>
>
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