On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, wells wrote:
quoted 5 lines At 02:22 AM 7/9/2001 +0000, Kevin Ryan @ wrote:> At 02:22 AM 7/9/2001 +0000, Kevin Ryan @ wrote:
> >influence. Appreciation != influence. I can appreciate Mozart and
> >produce minimal techno, and I think it would be misleading to conclude
> >Mozart has been an influence on my minimal techno.
>
I don't know. Mozart was all about economy of means. The first movement
of 'Eine Kleine Nachtmusik' has about 2 measures of thematic material
that he runs through every sort of inversion, modulation, reversal, etc.
It used to drive me nuts to play in orchestra because there was so little
there, and you don't get the gestalt when you're sitting on stage.
We're lucky Mozart wasn't around for arpeggiators and drum machines because
he'd have turned out 10 times as much material.
To say that Mozart was techno is kind of absurd, but he had his techno
moments. The rhythmic stiffness of most Mozart definitely foreshadows
stuff like Kraftwerk and Neu. Kraftwerk were around for the beginning
of machines that can play perfectally mechanical rhythms. Mozart tried
to make musicians into machines to reproduce his musical mechanisms.
quoted 3 lines Yeah, but the bottom line is that name-dropping is cooler than not> Yeah, but the bottom line is that name-dropping is cooler than not
> name-dropping, especially in interviews and such.
>
It's fun to play that game. Did you know I've spoken on the phone
with Rich Devine's Mama?
quoted 4 lines So next time someone asks you for your influences, publicly, be sure to at> So next time someone asks you for your influences, publicly, be sure to at
> least mention Stockhausen or some obscure experimentalist to get the hip
> intellectual points.
>
You have to think about the converse as well. How many people namecheck
Abba and the Carpenters? I'm a huge Jackie Gleason fan too. And the
Harmonicats? They were WAY fucking techno.
quoted 2 lines It's most likely that some artists survive entirely on hip intellectul points.> It's most likely that some artists survive entirely on hip intellectul points.
>
You know Wells, I can always count on you to say the stupidest fucking
thing you can at any given point. And I mean that as a compliment.
Making music is hard work, and the pay is lousy. The only reason anyone
keeps doing it long enough to get to the point of being interviewed and
quoted is because they do music as a compulsion -- it's a process that
feeds their souls. Someday it may, in some way, pay off. Or maybe not.
Part and parcel of being consumed by music is that you may actually listen
to stuff that regular people can't stand and take some enjoyment and guidance
from it.
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