On 26 Jun 2001, Future Relic wrote:
quoted 7 lines "electronic symphony" is a horrible alternative,
>
> > "electronic symphony" is a horrible alternative,
> > simply because most of the stuff at the root of IDM is
> > still heavily dance-related, be it hip-hop, house,
> > garage, d'n'b, or in some people's cases, waltz.
>
> Hmm, but it does have roots in the modern classical music too. Most
notably
quoted 1 line Schoenberg's dodecaphonic stuff of the early 1900s. Er, check out this
> Schoenberg's dodecaphonic stuff of the early 1900s. Er, check out this
link
quoted 6 lines a friend gave me a while back:
> a friend gave me a while back:
>
> http://www.xrefer.com/entry.jsp?xrefid=344742
>
> I'm not saying this is the root, but it's certainly seems a more fitting
> ancestor than rave music.
What? Is "rave music" not good enough for you? Are you "above" hip hop?
Cos, you know, the only reason autechre make music is because of their
early hip-hop influence and b-boy lifestyle, Aphex Twin because he wanted
to fuck around with sounds and listened to 70's folk/rock when he was
young, and countless other reputable musicians who were influenced a hell
of a lot more by 80's techno than by any sort of classical, modern or
"old". Just because the complexity is something we see more often in older
things, it doesn't mean they're at all alike.
We should scuttle all you "where's idm come from, and what's it called"
people off to some idm-anthropology list, where you can discuss how "idm is
so advanced, it couldn't possibly have come from 'lower' forms of music."
"Intelligent" sounds pretentious, yet saying 'idm' is "above" dance music
isn't. nice.
cheers,
/derek
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