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idm , Guillaume Grenier
Date:
Tue, 22 May 2001 08:03:12 +0800
Subject:
Re: [idm] Is IDM art? Autechre vs Beethoven inna dub soundclash
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Guillaume Grenier wrote:
quoted 8 lines Autechre (just using them as an example) are relevant to our> > Autechre (just using them as an example) are relevant to our > contemporary > > situation in a way that Beethoven isn't...at least that's my > opinion. > > I'd be truly interested in hearing you develop that opinion, if > possible. > (No sarcasm whatsoever is intended.)
I think the McLuhan quotes in my other email address this...his point is that new media function as extensions of man, extensions of our sense organs, and that such extensions change the way we think. I know the way I think has been thoroughly reconfigured by my encounter with the Net, how about you? Some writers in cultural studies theorize the human/computer interface as a cyborg system already -- when I work on music, for example, I am so comfortable with using Digital Performer that it has become like an extension of my brain. I conceptualize about how to work with the music using terms and concepts from the software. I think many of us already relate to the Internet this way -- it's like a giant memory extension that anyone can tap into if they know how. Almost feels like having a bionic brain sometimes... Autechre's music is tracing out stories of how to live in such a world and deal with such experiences. Beethoven's is not. This doesn't mean that Beethoven's music is totally without relevance -- some aspects of human experience do seem to be timeless. But he doesn't speak to our contemporary situation in the same way as Autechre. Personally, I prefer Autechre. In the same way, Howlin' Wolf in his heyday probably had a relevance to poor black Americans that we can hardly appreciate now, he was addressing his own contemporary situation. Does that make sense? Incidentally, I have started doing some digitally deconstructed remixes of a few classical pieces recently...almost finished with Barber's 'Adagio for Strings', I'll post a note after I've uploaded it to our website. John -- John von Seggern DJ/producer Digital Cutup Lounge Hong Kong http://www.digitalcutuplounge.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org