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From:
Andrei
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Date:
Fri, 18 May 2001 17:36:43 -0400
Subject:
RE: [idm] the emperor's new clothes
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On Fri, 18 May 2001, Lara Wiesenthal wrote:
quoted 7 lines no matter how much everyone says that Confield sucks, won't make me dislike> no matter how much everyone says that Confield sucks, won't make me dislike > it. > Ae's show was fucking amazing , and if you don't have the capacity to hear > how beautiful, dark , and psychedelic they sounds, then all your talk about > drugs, and evolution is pointless drivel, because you are missing out on > beautiful music. > It sucks to be you. take some more mushrooms, and enjoy your new clothes.
I think people get all excited about Autechre's new direction cuz there's all this sort of mystery about what they're doing/how they're making the music, but I think once you get some experience with their tools - more "advanced" synthesis/DSP/generative software - you'll be less impressed. I mean I think they're very talented and full of great ideas and all that, but I think they could be doing more with their tools and in a way I kind of see their recent tracks as lazy (there are people on the SuperCollider list who are convinced that on the first tune off Confield they're just using one of the example patches that comes with SC). It seems to me like they're so sort of wrapped up in the process that they're not really paying attention to just making something worth listening to. I feel like you can't even really talk about things like "production" or arrangement with the new stuff, it's just sort of "this is the output of this process/environment we came up with and that's it". Which is cool in a sort of academic way, but the end results aren't all that exciting a lot of the time (with Autechre), imo. Personally, I definitely don't wish they would go back to what they were doing in '95 or whatever, but I wish their music would be more dynamic. I thought the "Peel Session 2" tracks were great, but the stuff they're doing now tends to be very static and overly long. This whole 10 minutes repetition with "subtle" changes thing really gets tired after a while. One of my favorite tracks off Confield is track 6 which is only like 4 minutes long and doesn't outstay its welcome. (And I have been known to listen to quite a lot of free/avant-garde jazz and 20th century classical among other things, so I don't think that "you're not appreciating experimentation" argument really applies, but it is all just my opinion in the end.) :-) Whatever, I still have a lot of respect for what they're doing. Andrei --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org