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From:
Myroslaw Bytz
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setre . , , ,
Date:
Sat, 12 May 2001 10:50:30 -0400
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RE: [idm] understanding art (and all the other crap we are always yapping about.)
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fuck art. let's kill. vzaem against the concept of "art"
quoted 141 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: setre . [mailto:drakt@hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 7:27 PM > To: kromattik@aol.com; dreadik@tokyo.com; idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: [idm] understanding art (and all the other crap we are always > yapping about.) > > > > > Here is a section of a book called Art Objects. Read it. learn something. > > > Art takes time. To spend an hour looking at a painting is difficult. We > are an odd people: we make it as difficult as possible for our artists to > work honestly while they are alive; either we refuse them money > or we ruin > them with money; either we flatter them with unhelpful praise or > wound them > with unhelpful blame, and when they are too old or dead, or too beyond > dispute to hinder anymore, we canonize them, so that what was > wild is tamed, > and what was objected, becomes authority. Canonizing pictures is > one way of > killing them. When the sense of familiarity becomes too great, history, > popularity, association, all crowd in between the viewer and the > picture and > block it out. Not only pictures suffer like this, all the arts > suffer like > this. > > If the obvious direct emotional response is to have any meaning, the > question "do I like this?" will have to be the opening question > and not the > final judgment. An examination of our own feelings will have to > give way to > an examination of the piece of work. This is fair to the work and it will > help to clarify the nature of our own feelings; to reveal prejudice, > opinion, anxiety, even the mood of the day. It is right to trust our > feelings but right to test them too. If they are what we say they > are, then > they will stand the test, if not, we will at least be less insecure. But > here we come back to the first hurdle of art, and it is a high > one; it shows > up. > When you say "This work has nothing to do with me". when you say > "this work > is boring/pointless/silly/obscure/elitist etc.", you might be > right, because > you are looking at a fad, or you might be wrong, because the work > falls so > outside of the safety of you’re own experience that in order to > keep you’re > own world intact, you must deny the other world of the painting. > This denial > of imaginative experience happens at a deeper level than our > affirmation of > our daily world. Every day, in countless ways, you and I convince > ourselves > about ourselves. True art, when it happens to us, challenges the > "I" that we > are. > > A love-parallel would be just; falling in love challenges the > reality to > which we lay claim, part of the pleasure of love and part of its > terror, is > the world turned upside down. We want and we don’t want, the > cutting edge, > the upset, the new views. Mostly we work hard at taming our emotional > environment just as we work hard at taming our aesthetic environment. We > already have tamed our physical environment. And are we happy > with all this > tameness? Are you? > > > Art cannot be tamed, although our responses to it can be, and > in relation > to the Canon, our responses are conditioned from the moment we > start school. > The freshness which the everyday regular man or woman pride > themselves upon; > the untaught “I know what I like” approach, now encouraged by the > media, is > neither fresh nor untaught. It is the half-baked sterility of the > classroom > washed down with liberal doses of popular culture. > The media ransacks the arts, in its images, in its adverts, in > its copy, > in its jingles, in its little tunes and journalist’s jargon, it > continually > offers up faint shadows of the form and invention of real music, real > paintings, real words. All of us are subjected to this bombardment, which > both deadens our sensibilities and makes us fear what is not instant, > approachable, consumable. The solid presence of art demands from us > significant effort, an effort anathema to popular culture. Effort > of time, > effort of money, effort of study, effort of humility, effort of > imagination > have each been packed by the artist into the art. Is it so > unreasonable to > expect a percentage of that from us in return? I worry that to ask for > effort is to imply elitism, and the charge against art, that it > is elitist, > is to often the accuser’s defense against his or her own > bafflement. It is > quite close to the remark “Why can’t they all speak English?” , > which may be > why "elitist" is the favorite insult of the American and the British. > > But you may say, how can I know what is good and what is not > good? I may > wince at the cheap seascape over the mantelpiece but does that > necessarily > mean I should go to the Tate gallery and worship a floor full of > dyed rice? > Years ago, when I was living very briefly with a stockbroker who had a > good cellar, I asked him how I could learn about wine. > “Drink it” he said. > > > > > > piece, > mike > > p.s. if you want to read the whole thing (which was way too long > for me to > type) look up the book. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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