Everything is gimmicky, time for my anti-depressants...
Roy Lopez exchange variation is gimmicky, King's Indian is gimmicky,
eventually... get a Django record, get Mr.Dibbs scratchin a Django record.
Come back to it in a while. Listen to Dr. Laura, fuck... what's the final
solution? Sonic Youth? I know, my secret recordings :) Time for Three
Skeleton Key vs. Edward Scissorhands. Create somethin and keep it a secret,
there is too much culture. Keep something for yourself. Create and Nurture,
don't destroy...
quoted 122 lines From: The Chisa <matt@holland.deathhouse.net>
>From: The Chisa <matt@holland.deathhouse.net>
>To: erik pearson <efric@hotmail.com>
>CC: idm@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [idm] Anyone else on here not like "IDM"?
>Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 06:49:03 -0400 (EDT)
>
>
>I've said it before, and I'll say it again: IDM is gimmicky and therefore
>doomed. I'll take Gorecki over Global Communication any day of the week.
>
>
>m@2zo
>www.thechisa.com
>
>
>"Like David said in the 23rd Psalm, 'Though I walk through the valley of
>the shadow of death.' See, nobody say, 'Hey, man, let's go shoppin' in
>the valley of the shadow of death! Let's go buy a condo in the valley of
>the shadow of death!'"
>
>-- Mr. T
>
>
>On Sat, 5 May 2001, erik pearson wrote:
>
> > Some recent newsmagazineshow (forget which) offered the opinion that
> > consumers have had their "fill" of new technologies (yes, they used a
>dinner
> > metaphor). Maybe the same dissemination of DSP-technology is affecting
>with
> > what we listen and respond to...
> >
> > I think that after all the hype around new production software that is
> > powerful/scalable (MAX, Reaktor, etc.), these tools end up with a
>specific,
> > identifiable sound because they do a certain, limited number of things
> > quickly and easily. And that's what the majority of producers use them
>for.
> > Kind of like when hardware samplers first became afforable... in theory
>they
> > are chamelons but in retrospect, early sampler-based work used a ton of
> > pitch-shifting, reversing, looping, whatever because it was new and
>easy. In
> > the end, you could easily pick out that a track that used a sampler.
> >
> > Could simply be your tired of hearing the quick and easy application of
> > technology. If so, is cool... me too. :)
> >
> > Maybe all likeminded individuals should start an IDM-recovery list.
> >
> > erik
> > statemusic
> >
> > (a lurker by nature)
> >
> >
> > >From: Michael Upton <jetjag@paradise.net.nz>
> > >To: idm@hyperreal.org
> > >Subject: [idm] Anyone else on here not like "IDM"?
> > >Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 11:53:25 +1200
> > >
> > >No, I'm not being facetious. I'm just getting increasingly curious as
>to
> > >whether there's anyone else out there who no longer listens to eg.
> > >Autechre, Aphex Twin, thinks labels like MAS and Skam are boring,
>doesn't
> > >like all these post-Aphex distorted drum machine sounds, disjointed
> > >rhythms, etc. etc...
> > >
> > >I stay on the list because there is enough discussion of acts I do like
> > >which I would never find elsewhere. I guess these are some of the
>things I
> > >enjoy reading about: Chain Reaction style minimal stuff (eg. Vlad.
>Delay,
> > >old Porter Ricks, the new Andreas Tilliander LP), "neu-Kraut" and the
> > >A-Musik related stuff (eg. To Rococo Rot, Tarwater, MoM, Vert, C-Schulz
>&
> > >Hajsh), some Detroit sounds (eg. Shake, Carl Craig) and yes this weirdo
> > >house business (eg. Herbert, recent Matmos, some Force Tracks 12s) ...
>I
> > >guess I find some good hip-hop tips on here as well.
> > >
> > >So, yeah, I'm just wondering whether anyone else is in a similar boat?
>No
> > >need to reply to the whole list, certainly no need to make a "these are
>all
> > >IDM"/"there aren't IDM at all, what are you doing here??" thread. :-)
> > >
> > >Mind you, with all this said, when I received my copies of that Surgery
> > >Records comp 'Initial Release' I found I really enjoyed the vast
>majority
> > >of tracks. They're pretty damn downbeat though... I guess I'm a sucker
>for
> > >the far softer end of the spectrum... or if I want rowdy I listen to
>rock.
> > >
> > >Thinking out loud...
> > >
> > >Michael
> > >
> > >np. mp3.com/loscil
> > >
> > >
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