quoted 7 lines Hey guys, this thread has long since lost any connection to the topic> Hey guys, this thread has long since lost any connection to the topic
> of this mailing list. Please knock it off or take it off the list.
> Thanks.
>
> respectfully yours,
>
> kurt
Oh good, now we can all get back to strutting around like the pretentious
fucks we are. And you just KNOW I was so much more enjoying the threads
about fucking Confield. I am so tired of deleting 80 messages a day and I
am sick of reading everyones inane, banal, and puerile little thoughts.
There are a few of you who actually contribute something worthwhile and I
thank you for that. But if you automatically think I am talking about YOU,
you're probably wrong. And to debase myself to the level of this list, I
hated Confield too, I cannot stand Autechre even though I give them chance
after chance. Even going to see them live because people hold them in such
high regard. I have a girlfriend who loves IDM. Now what other thread can I
bring up that refuses to seep away and slowly fucking die? I am
unsubscribing now, something I should have done a long time ago. And don't
bother to write me to complain about me airing all my complaints on the
list. You've read this far, haven't you?
Grow up people. Unsubscribe and go outside. Throw a frisbee around. Chat
up someone pretty.
And to leave you on a positive note, here's something from
tigerbeat6.com/cex that I thought maybe you'd all be interested in.
enjoy!
david.
"Here you have 1000 or so people getting messages in their mailbox from the
same 50 or 60 people -- the vast, vast majority of whom are easily
identifiable as electronic music artists of some caliber or another by the
(frequently lengthy and shockingly immodest [oh god, you're one to talk
about modesty, rjyan...]) tag-lines at the end of their emails which give
their name, email, web site, their label's website and possibly a list of
the last sixteen records they put
out and where to buy them. And they're all talking about music as if they
were just regular people whose own identities weren't completely at stake
with every single judgment they make. People are having these arguments and
discussions when it's painfully, painfully obvious that no one's really
talking about THAT music, they're talking about THEIR music -- even when
they don't come out and say they are (which is actually rarer than you'd
think.)
I used to get upset when heads would bash the IDM-list. Virtually every
electronic musician who knows of its existence has horrible things to say
about it, especially electronic musicians who have garnered some modicum of
success. Now, I have to capitulate: basically, the whole thing is pretty
useless unless you plan
on being one of the vocal minority who will pretend like their opinions
about music don't have everything to do with their own goals and own career.
Musicians don't really know anything about music. Fortunately, good
musicians don't need to have objective opinions on music, because for us,
the regular non-musicianal people, the primary concern is getting these guys
to make more good music. Who cares what Artist X thinks about Artist Y's new
record.
Bad musicians can S[uck] their own D[ick]s and hoot and holler at each
other all they want: regular people don't give a damn, and with good reason.
It's like -- every music head has an agenda. They relate to other music
through their agenda, almost never independently of it. And the majority of
people who like music are not music makers. Yet the music makers are
dominating most of these conversations. Especially in the electronic music
game, but the same thing can be observed to a slightly lesser extent
happening with the rock and the hip hop games."
(Rjyan Kidwell, 4/30/01)
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