[EggyToast <youn0394@umn.edu>]
quoted 2 lines idm started as an armchair genre. That's why there's so much growing pains
> idm started as an armchair genre. That's why there's so much growing pains
> about playing live now :D
I disagree, and this is a misconception that kind of gets to me... I
think IDM turned into an armchair genre, and I think that's why I don't
like it anymore.
The early IDM was all dance-oriented and played at Raves. Aphex was
playin raves in the US in 93 and Autechre was in like 95 or so...
I don't know how many people on this list have been raving for a long
time, but ambient rooms were common place and people danced to things
like Aphex, the Orb, Orbital, etc.
The second wave of IDM took this and completely removed it from rave
culture and started to somehow think that they were above rave culture
in some way. The third wave is kind of refreshing in that they're
knocking down the stuffiness, but they're still anti-rave for some
reason. Lesser even admitted in an interview that he's never been to an
interview (the article is on his site).
This somewhat ties in with what somebody said earlier about liking
Autechre but not liking Miami Bass... In the same way it annoys me when
people talk about stuff like Squarepusher or Aphex and won't pay any
respect to jungle, techno, house or even most jazz fusion.
It really annoys me that IDM is almost no longer welcome at raves. I've
only gotten to play a few because they're so divorced, but it's
seriously great when it works out.
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