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From:
Brian M. Cass
To:
The Chisa
Cc:
Date:
Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:16:11 -0600 (MDT)
Subject:
Re: [idm] on discussing autechre on the list
Msg-Id:
<Pine.LNX.4.33.0104191514260.6571-100000@boardwalk.nmt.edu>
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<Pine.LNX.4.21.0104191708010.22446-100000@holland.deathhouse.net>
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So all Richard Devine fans are sub-human soul-less robot monsters then? eh, and I did mention I sometimes like to listen to stuff with melodies, and the stuff I mentioned contains better melodies than most any electronic act, so mabye when I'm not shallow and soul-less, I'm really really really not shallow and soul-less, and people who stick to electronic stuff only are never truly and completely not shallow? On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, The Chisa wrote:
quoted 180 lines Yeah, that would pretty much make you shallow, buddy.> > Yeah, that would pretty much make you shallow, buddy. > > Call me crazy but: how about a nice balance of wacky new sounds AND > competent songwriting? > > > m@2zo > www.thechisa.com > > > "Like David said in the 23rd Psalm, 'Though I walk through the valley of > the shadow of death.' See, nobody say, 'Hey, man, let's go shoppin' in > the valley of the shadow of death! Let's go buy a condo in the valley of > the shadow of death!'" > > -- Mr. T > > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Brian M. Cass wrote: > > > Well, I might sound shallow or something, but yeah, I wanna hear crazy new > > sounds. If I just wanna hear well written songs, which sometimes I do, > > I'll listen to Bach, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Coltrane, Davis, Beatles, > > Beach Boys etc. The point is as far as well written songs go there is > > alot > > more stuff out there alot better than crunch, and while it may not use > > electronic sounds, if I want those I go to Autechre or whoever is up to > > crazy weird shit. > > > > > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Michael J Henderson Jr. wrote: > > > > > > > > Admittedly, Crunch isn't exactly breaking much new ground, but, uhm, > > > does that mean that it's somehow not valid? ... I mean, this is exactly > > > the problem with Confield. It seems like a lot of people just want to hear > > > "Crazy New Shit", not good ol' well written songs. > > > > > > Sheesh, as if it's sacrilege to compare someone else to ae. > > > > > > -- - > > > Nintari Man > > > > > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Brian M. Cass wrote: > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:09:04 -0600 (MDT) > > > > From: Brian M. Cass <kingmob@nmt.edu> > > > > To: Nintari Man <nintarispam@nintari.com> > > > > Cc: idm@hyperreal.org > > > > Subject: Re: [idm] on discussing autechre on the list > > > > > > > > I haven't heard chris clark or boulderdash, but Crunch? I'm listening to > > > > it now, and although I don't hate the album, how on earth can you, ugh, I > > > > mean this isn't anything Autechre couldn't have done around Chiastic, and > > > > even they didn't make such a simple cd, at least they went for more of an > > > > artistic slant. I've heard some of the tracks off of Confield, and > > > > personally I was hoping they would all be a bit more like Vis Scose, where > > > > each track doesn't pay off until half way through. > > > > > > > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Nintari Man wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alright, I'm disappointed. I'll admit it. Now I'll go off on a rant. > > > > > > > > > > <OPINION> > > > > > > > > > > As far as the melodic qualities of each track go, I'm entirely > > > > > unimpressed. There's not much to be said about that. It either seems to be > > > > > not there, not enough, or nothing new. Minimalism at it's most boring. > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I like the ass-shaking Autechre. This new album is most > > > > > definately devoid of ass-shaking beatage. the 'Beats that might sound > > > > > cool if they weren't so horribly fucked' aren't doing it for me. The > > > > > tracks that do have some kind of coherent rhythm sound like they were > > > > > programmed by a 3 year old with brain damage. Also, the oh-so-unsubtle and > > > > > ridiculous timing/tempo changes on some of the tracks, uhm ... not slick, > > > > > jack. > > > > > > > > > > I'm both amused and disturbed by how close the fakes I made ended up > > > > > sounding like the actual tracks. I thought to myself, "What would AE sound > > > > > like if they crawled a bit too far up their own asses", and proceeded to > > > > > make tracks in 5 minutes that could probably quite easily fit in on > > > > > Confield. Scary. > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps AE decided to get a laugh out of releasing a terrible record and > > > > > getting every idm jagoff to say that it's fresh. Sadly, I don't think > > > > > that's the case. The next step in hip hop from the Nth dimension? > > > > > Perhaps, but I'm not sure if it's a step in the right direction. > > > > > > > > > > My advice? Invest in some of the more impressive up-and-comers before > > > > > buying this album -- Boulderdash, Chris Clark, and Crunch. > > > > > > > > > > </OPINION> > > > > > > > > > > -- - > > > > > Nintari Man > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Mark wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:27:12 -0700 > > > > > > From: Mark <mef@ecst.csuchico.edu> > > > > > > To: idm@hyperreal.org > > > > > > Subject: Re: [idm] on discussing autechre on the list > > > > > > > > > > > > So now, trying to get off this roller coaster, what do people think of > > > > > > the album? Supposedly it's released out in Japan, and i've seen it on > > > > > > napster now, so I know some of you have it. Out with it! No more of > > > > > > this rhetorical discussion on discussion BS. Let's have the meat of the > > > > > > matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > -mark > > > > > > > > > > > > rw wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The people who wrote this message have been sacked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "sarah ellenberger" <djdesada@hotmail.com> > > > > > > > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 4:56 PM > > > > > > > Subject: [idm] on discussing autechre on the list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> dear fellow idmers > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> it has come to my attention that perhaps we should not discuss whether or > > > > > > >> not to discuss the new autechre album. perhaps that would be against the > > > > > > >> consensus of the list. perhaps we should elect a senate to decide whether > > > > > > >> or not we should be discussing whether or not we should discuss the new > > > > > > >> autechre album... and then elect a different senate (composed of different > > > > > > >> members) to discuss whether or not to discuss whether or not we should > > > > > > >> discuss the new squarepusher release. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> perhaps? let me know what you all think. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> perhaps we should call Jerry Springer. > > > > > > >> _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > >> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >
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