You seem to be implying that the songs on the new Autechre release are not
well written songs. Though they don't have a standard pop-0song structure,
I do think that there is solid song writing there. To my ears I am carried
through each piece and rewarded with peaks and valleys of sonic joy. And I
find myself humming along ;) For me it is their best work to-date.
peace,
Chad Mossholder
Twine/Twinesound Audio Productions
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quoted 10 lines From: "Brian M. Cass" <kingmob@nmt.edu>
>From: "Brian M. Cass" <kingmob@nmt.edu>
>To: "Michael J Henderson Jr." <mike@wolfetech.com>
>CC: Nintari Man <nintarispam@nintari.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: [idm] on discussing autechre on the list
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>Well, I might sound shallow or something, but yeah, I wanna hear crazy new
>sounds. If I just wanna hear well written songs, which sometimes I do,
>I'll listen to Bach, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Coltrane, Davis, Beatles,
>Beach Boys etc. The point is as far as well written songs go there is
>alot
>more stuff out there alot better than crunch, and while it may not use
>electronic sounds, if I want those I go to Autechre or whoever is up to
>crazy weird shit.
>
>
>On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Michael J Henderson Jr. wrote:
>
> >
> > Admittedly, Crunch isn't exactly breaking much new ground, but, uhm,
> > does that mean that it's somehow not valid? ... I mean, this is exactly
> > the problem with Confield. It seems like a lot of people just want to
>hear
> > "Crazy New Shit", not good ol' well written songs.
> >
> > Sheesh, as if it's sacrilege to compare someone else to ae.
> >
> > -- -
> > Nintari Man
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Brian M. Cass wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:09:04 -0600 (MDT)
> > > From: Brian M. Cass <kingmob@nmt.edu>
> > > To: Nintari Man <nintarispam@nintari.com>
> > > Cc: idm@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: [idm] on discussing autechre on the list
> > >
> > > I haven't heard chris clark or boulderdash, but Crunch? I'm listening
>to
> > > it now, and although I don't hate the album, how on earth can you,
>ugh, I
> > > mean this isn't anything Autechre couldn't have done around Chiastic,
>and
> > > even they didn't make such a simple cd, at least they went for more of
>an
> > > artistic slant. I've heard some of the tracks off of Confield, and
> > > personally I was hoping they would all be a bit more like Vis Scose,
>where
> > > each track doesn't pay off until half way through.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Nintari Man wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Alright, I'm disappointed. I'll admit it. Now I'll go off on a rant.
> > > >
> > > > <OPINION>
> > > >
> > > > As far as the melodic qualities of each track go, I'm entirely
> > > > unimpressed. There's not much to be said about that. It either seems
>to be
> > > > not there, not enough, or nothing new. Minimalism at it's most
>boring.
> > > >
> > > > Personally, I like the ass-shaking Autechre. This new album is most
> > > > definately devoid of ass-shaking beatage. the 'Beats that might
>sound
> > > > cool if they weren't so horribly fucked' aren't doing it for me. The
> > > > tracks that do have some kind of coherent rhythm sound like they
>were
> > > > programmed by a 3 year old with brain damage. Also, the
>oh-so-unsubtle and
> > > > ridiculous timing/tempo changes on some of the tracks, uhm ... not
>slick,
> > > > jack.
> > > >
> > > > I'm both amused and disturbed by how close the fakes I made ended up
> > > > sounding like the actual tracks. I thought to myself, "What would AE
>sound
> > > > like if they crawled a bit too far up their own asses", and
>proceeded to
> > > > make tracks in 5 minutes that could probably quite easily fit in on
> > > > Confield. Scary.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps AE decided to get a laugh out of releasing a terrible record
>and
> > > > getting every idm jagoff to say that it's fresh. Sadly, I don't
>think
> > > > that's the case. The next step in hip hop from the Nth dimension?
> > > > Perhaps, but I'm not sure if it's a step in the right direction.
> > > >
> > > > My advice? Invest in some of the more impressive up-and-comers
>before
> > > > buying this album -- Boulderdash, Chris Clark, and Crunch.
> > > >
> > > > </OPINION>
> > > >
> > > > -- -
> > > > Nintari Man
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Mark wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:27:12 -0700
> > > > > From: Mark <mef@ecst.csuchico.edu>
> > > > > To: idm@hyperreal.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [idm] on discussing autechre on the list
> > > > >
> > > > > So now, trying to get off this roller coaster, what do people
>think of
> > > > > the album? Supposedly it's released out in Japan, and i've seen
>it on
> > > > > napster now, so I know some of you have it. Out with it! No more
>of
> > > > > this rhetorical discussion on discussion BS. Let's have the meat
>of the
> > > > > matter.
> > > > >
> > > > > -mark
> > > > >
> > > > > rw wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The people who wrote this message have been sacked.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > rw
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "sarah ellenberger" <djdesada@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 4:56 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [idm] on discussing autechre on the list
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> dear fellow idmers
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> it has come to my attention that perhaps we should not discuss
>whether or
> > > > > >> not to discuss the new autechre album. perhaps that would be
>against the
> > > > > >> consensus of the list. perhaps we should elect a senate to
>decide whether
> > > > > >> or not we should be discussing whether or not we should discuss
>the new
> > > > > >> autechre album... and then elect a different senate (composed
>of different
> > > > > >> members) to discuss whether or not to discuss whether or not we
>should
> > > > > >> discuss the new squarepusher release.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> perhaps? let me know what you all think.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> perhaps we should call Jerry Springer.
> > > > > >>
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