OK, with reference to "dont try to be what you are not on stage," this would seem to be a matter of taste. Some people like to be theatrical. Some people prefer technical skill.
When going to the theatre, you can choose the ballet or kabuki or noh theatre, where the focus is more on the refined ability of the performers to do certain characters or movements. You go to these performances to admire a skill.
Then there's the type of theatre where the point is to do everything you can to become or at least represent something else; your goal is to be something which you are not.
In reality, most of what anyone "really is" is just more theatre anyway. We are constantly representing ourselves to ourselves and others; our identity is no more than a personal theatre through which we manipulate ourselves and the world around us to get what we need or want. I'm not talking evolutionary psychology here, I'm talking theatre.
If anyone's interested, I suggest looking into Agusto Boal, this Brazil guy who I think lives in France now; he's written some interesting stuff.
But I didn't want to get into that. My point is just that we all like different things; Swamay, if you prefer to just pay attention to the music, you seem to be more interested in the technical skill of the art, which would include, as far as I'm concerned, the sounds of the music, their sequence, the way they interact, etc. etc. This follows a long tradition of composers throughout history who were concerned more with trying to create different, new, or perfect music. The math of the music is more important than the cathartic result it might provoke.
Other people are more interested in what music can bring to their human experience. Sometimes we like a show; we like entertainment.
I like both from time to time. I have tickets to They Might Be Giants on April 30, which I expect to be a rocking concert. I expect entertainment in the company of other like-minded people. However, I also have tickets to Autechre the following week. I don't know what to expect; it could be either a showcase of technical skill or a hot dance party. But I'm kind of figuring on the former, and that's why I bought the tickets.
It doesn't really matter, just stop trying to shove your view on others as if your idea of music for the sake of music was the only real, right-minded idea anyone could have. Others think differently, and they're no more wrong than you.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: swamay [mailto:swamay@home.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:29 PM
> To: Josh Brown; b. fagan
> Cc: idm@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [idm] Re: What do you expect from IDM musicians on stage?
>
>
> It takes musician/programmer (they are the same thing in
> electronic music)
> to make these sequences and tones. It may be automated upon
> transmission,
> but had to be "made" or "programmed" Some lean more toward
> the programming
> side, step sequencing, and arpeggiators. But I am assuming
> there are alot
> of electronic "musicians" that actually play their synths
> like myself. I do
> not agree that musicianship is performance art. It is about
> making music,
> not being a performer. If you want to throw in a show,
> great! but be
> yourself, dont try to be what you are not on stage. Put your
> musician foot
> forward, play the synths, and edit your parameters live (you
> know who you
> are), and put your performance act on the shelf. :)
>
> ~swamay~
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