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Chris Fahey
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Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:28:53 -0500
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RE: [idm] "simply a moron?"
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quoted 5 lines The general point is simply that all things, no matter> The general point is simply that all things, no matter > how simplistic and bad they appear to be, are > complexes of qualities, and not every single minute > quality or long term effect of a thing will turn out > to be a bad one.
It's pretty damn silly and actually quite a bit offensive to offer up a spontaneous defense of the existence of "good aspects of fascism" even if all you are really doing is pointing out the patently obvious fact that 'things are made of complexes of qualities'. If we're going to have a inane intellectual exercise about how, logically, bad things may have some good parts, then let's go so far as to question what "good" and "bad" mean: In my mind, anything begotten through fascism is by definition bad. Even punctual trains. To many people, punctual trains begotten through opression and torture are simply not the same (not even logically or functionally the same) as punctual trains begotten through education and freedom. So there is some disagreement as to what a "good" thing even is. So please tell your naive, academic, 'logical' hobgoblin to stop whispering this crap in your ear when your heart knows full well that fascism is bad and that, overall, the world would be better off without it ever having existed. Sure we can talk about how the Nazis were snappy dressers, but this fact alone do not even remotely translate into justifying any argument that are 'good aspects of Nazism'. Maybe small-minded logic suggests that there is some correlation, but the bottom line is that there are more useful ways to talk about this besides logic. Logic is not always the correct tool to use in political discussions, particularly when in the end you are trying to determine what's "good" and "bad". (to put this into Dungeons and Dragons terms, I give you an Intelligence of 17 and a Wisdom of around 8.) There is great controversy right now about whether or not contemporary scientists should draw on the medical data generated from the sadistic medical experiments performed in Nazi concentration camps. Logically, it may in fact make sense to do it. But politically and ethically this would be fucking awful in countless ways. Put your gigantic, razor-sharp, supercomputer-like brain in a jar for a minute and imagine yourself explaining the logical existence of 'good aspects of fascism' to a Holocaust survivor. - Cf --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org