At 02:47 PM 1/9/2001 -0800, Ed Hall wrote:
quoted 18 lines "n:h" <nate@toshoklabs.com> wrote:>"n:h" <nate@toshoklabs.com> wrote:
> > I think this is the reason why 'pure' IDM is gradually losing my interest.
>
> > I can't remember the last IDM record that truly moved me. I take it back
> > Arovane's Tides moved me.
>
>If you listen to IDM to be emotionally moved, might I respectfully suggest
>that you check out other genres of music. I can't speak for the rest of
>the folks here, but to me emotion just isn't the point of IDM, and complaining
>about it is even more pointless. You may as well criticize Gregorian chant
>for its lack of rhythm, Rap for its lack of grammar, or Punk for its lack
>of harmony.
>
>The Arovanes and Bolas are the exceptions, not the core of IDM. It's the
>sounds and rhythms that make it IDM, not the fine melodic lines. So much
>of the criticism on this list is like asking why oranges can't be red like
>apples; the existence of a few red oranges doesn't make the criticism any
>more valid.
i respectfully disagree, but only a little. i think a lot of the
"emotionless" idm is intentionally "colder" and "emotionless" as its
emotion. i personally find a void of emotion to be sometimes as emotional
as, well, very emotional tracks.
plus, people get different emotions triggered in different ways. sure,
there's no doubt that most people hear a tinge of melancholy in boards of
canada, but some people prefer colder and more "empty" music to the "lush"
music.
i think this ties into the other bit, about "too much idm." previously,
when there was very little, i think there was a lot of "wow" factor
associated with "idm." which served as the emotional bit that people
liked. now there's so much, that you really do have a choice in what you
can listen to. before, it was, what, aphex twin, autechre, black dog, and
other warp artists, with a few scattered people doing things that were
similar (and subsequently making the genre as big as it is now). i think
it's just that we've heard all of it before, so the "wow" factor is lost,
and we look for something more. which is when we realize that most of it
is still *just music*. cool music, but still only music.
ah well. too many "quotes" :D
then there's the "boring" idm. there's a lot more of this now too. but
there's a lot more "idm" in general, so that's to be expected.
cheers,
/derek
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