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Tue, 19 Dec 2000 12:36:58 EST
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Re: [idm] IDM is not downtempo (a historical analysis)
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In a message dated 12/19/00 3:56:33 AM Central Standard Time, idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org writes:
quoted 32 lines so we're back to one of the commonest threads on the list :> so we're back to one of the commonest threads on the list : > dissatisfaction with the term 'idm'. if i may summarize its famous > history : it began to describe a few brits (notably afx--the original > subject of this list) who would make thumpy-thumpy dance music that > didn't have a comforting house feel, but felt a bit manic, twitchy, > yet very melodic. when these artists (e.g. warp crew) simultaneously > began exploring the deconstruction of jungle music with the same > weird vibe, the term 'idm' followed them, because there weren't a lot > of people doing this sort of thing to dance music, so very different > sounds were cast into the same genre. then it really becomes a mess. > a new wave of artists doing very simple, happy-bouncy synthesizer > music (e.g. solvent, plone) are decidedly 'idm' from the get-go, even > though this sort of music has been around for decades. squarepusher > starts doing jazzy stuff ; because of his name, THAT becomes idm. > minimal/ambient house emerges in germany, along with noise/unmusical > stuff (e.g. oval) and these progressively become assimilated into idm > culture. if we may say that common threads on the list make a type > of music into idm, then it also encompasses certain ambient artists > (e.g. vladislav delay), some techno, and some more experimental > stuff. now, the very loose application of the term 'idm' makes for a > very diverse idm community (just watch the stupid debates of opinion > for a sample) ; it effectively unites a number of small off-beat > genres into one, over-arching 'we don't like normal stuff' sort of > community. so the moral of the story is, just keep saying 'idm', and > don't tell people what it stands for (a stalinesque act of erasing > its history would be in order) ; the fact is, *we've got a name for > it*, it's too late to invent a new one and re-engineer our community, > but just recognize what a diversity of denotations the word carries. > (beware the connotations as well--people will probably think you're a > fancy, show-offy idm-l snob!) > > .af.
sweeeet post, someone should save this and just repost it whenever a "i hate the name idm" thread pops up. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org