dont know if this went through either??
?d
-----Original Message-----
From: Diana Potts [mailto:diapot@allmusic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 8:22 AM
To: idm@hyperreal.org; joe jackson
Subject: RE: Girls like cute IDM boys
ok, I came into the office this morning with this crazy thread and every
one getting their panties in a flaming bunch.
if you approach stuff like this in a tizzzy-no point gets made.
I'm not going to lie.It _was_ a female who took me to my first party. It
was a male who got me into techno and it was a male who got me *further*
into IDM. However, I took it from there. First said male didn't do much for
the education of music but just simply introduce me to the right crowd
(ie.no drugs), I had to learn basically every thing else on my own,as our
*friendship* faded. Second said male just introduced me further into
something I already knew existed and was already part of my record
collection. (perhaps we should talk about women not buying vinyl too)
Lets also be truthful with ourselves. If you go to a Autechre show or
Kid606, how many females are there? I bet a penny that we're outnumbered.
Bid deal, more cute IDM boys for me to talk music with.Our loss suddenly
became our gain (ooo i can hear people's panties bunching). I'd rather go to
an IDM or techno show, I'm guarenteed more straight males that way. I love
house when I need it and I love jungle too (the deep dark twisted shit-not
that LTJ sissy stuff). Perhaps why most men (esp. straight ones) don't like
house is b/c they have to let go of themselves and their installed
insecurities and dance.Here's a clue: a man who can let go a bit on the
floor is much more appealing than a wallflower IMHO. Let me make it clear
that I'm not into this music to catch a man, but _please_- I am human, in
the prime of my 20s, choose to stay single and not butt ugly...cut me some
slack for living-please.
Joe, the Mira Calix is one of my current favorites. If she has Ae writing
her stuff- well that's one BIG point for her already. If Ae wanted to
produced me coughing with the sound of elephants sneazing in the
background-I'd be flattered. If you are looking for some teenage ass, might
I suggest a rave or two. You could become the favorite, older "unkle" with
the magic pills. If your post is your idea of tact might I suggest putting
down your joystick and Vaseline and joining us in the world- but please buy
a comb...bed head went out with grunge (hmmm..another thing most chicks
weren't into). Your point was clear after the first two sentences.
As we say on 313.."back to the music."
Diana Potts
NP:Nicole Willis, Soul Makeover (nice for a winter morning)
and yes Joe, her husband-Jimi Tenor- produced her album.
-----Original Message-----
From: joe jackson [mailto:xcylobx@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 10:42 PM
To: idm@hyperreal.org
Subject: [idm] Why don't girls like IDM?
I don't get it. Can someone explain that? They all seem to like N'Sync and
Ricky Martin and things like that. As far as I can tell, no females listen
to or write IDM (unless you count Mira Calix, but since Ae writes all of her
stuff, it doesn't really count). I mean, I guess it's just something
genetic or whatever that they can't appreciate IDM.
I'm not holding it against them or anything.. it's just sort of sad that
they can't understand music unless it's sugar-coated and mass-marketed
directly to them.
If there ARE any girls on here who actually do listen to IDM, I'm curious to
know which tracks your boyfriends used to introduce you to the genre?
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