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Fri, 17 Nov 2000 08:47:43 -0500
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Re: [idm] Electro As IDM
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Most of UR's stuff would be classified as techno, but they have definately made some excursions into electro Rob www.componentrecords.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross Balmer <ross@tui.co.uk> To: IDM <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [idm] Electro As IDM
quoted 95 lines For me, being into electro is more of a regression (though not at all an> For me, being into electro is more of a regression (though not at all an > unpleasant one!). I was into hip-hop at the time it first appeared and on > the radio shows I listened to they played a lot of electro too, which I > actually preferred in retrospect although I wasn't so clear about the > distinction at the time. > > As for UR being electro, I sometimes wonder if making this retrospective > distinction between techno and electro is a good thing. UR did much to > define what techno is for me and I find it hard to suddenly consider it to > be some other kind of music. UR has always been always futurist in it's > outlook and the current interest in electro is essentially retro in nature. > > (And I strongly suggest going out and buying every UR release you can get!) > > Ross. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nuutti-Iivari Meriläinen" <gordon@populo.vip.fi> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 11:29 AM > Subject: [idm] Electro As IDM > > > > Hullo All, > > for the past years I've been starting to lean more and more towards > electro than the artists commonly discussed on the list. I am quite > certain that this is a natural progression for me, from the early > A.R.T./GPR/New Electronica/Likemind et al. sound through the harsher > Warp (Autechre, Phoenecia)/Skam/Markant etc. phase (where some rhythm > elements are definitely electro - just listen to ``Basscadet'') to what I > am buying more and more nowadays: Yunx, Jega, Phoenecia, Datathief and so > on. I have also been compelled to buy some pure electro-plays, like SCSI > and other similar labels. > > Someone else besides me has to have noticed the recent uprising of > neo-disco in the form of labels like Gigolo and artists like Zombie Nation > with their roots deeply in the sewers of Hague and ears on the wall of > Moroder and disco - and that labels like RePHLeX jumped on that bandwagon > well before the genre was brought into mainstream attention (just listen > to DMX Krew and Cylob's ``Rewind'' and ``Sex Machine''). Speaking of > RePHLeX, there are some really, _really_ good (yet somewhat > disturbing) electro tracks on their back catalogue, mostly Cylob and Mike > Dred (and of course Drexciya and Dynamix II)). > > I think this has been a fluid transition from the almost too abstract > rhythm programming on recent Autechre releases to the crisp (and > sometimes even melodic) yet not straightforward electro on records like > Jega's ``Geometry'', Yunx/Datathief split EP on Pitchcadet, more > experimental sound on Elektrolux (one of my current absolute favourite > labels), Phoenecia's ``Odd Jobs'' and ``Randa Roomet'', Team Doyobi's > ``Pushchairs For Grown Ups'' - and the harsher, noisier chapter of Speedy > J's ``IEEE Mitten Menu'' and ``Pannik''. I'm still quite reserved in my > foray into electro - I have not run to buy every UR record there is, but > Carl Finlow and some others really have grabbed my attention with their > nonstandard electro sound. I still have mixed feelings towards the > neo-disco movement for a reason I'm unable to grasp, though. It is fun yet > I wouldn't listen to it at home. > > A second point is the rise of the lo-bit electro movement - people using > C-64's and other 4-8-bit equipment to produce (mostly) electro. There was > a whiff of that on RePHLeX with the release on Bodenstandig 2000's ``Maxi > German Rave Blast Hits 3'' and Lektrogirl's ``I Love My Computer'' and the > more recent releases like Tero's ``First Blood'' on Rikos Records (I have > seen this guy perform _live_ with two C-64's - absolutely fabulous - > go get his first release (RIKOS003) _now_) and 8-bit Rockers (I don't > know if it's out yet). I'm not too keen on the lo-bit circuit (with the > exception of Tero), but it really is gaining momentum (or I'm just late to > observe). > > (Rikos Records will release a Lackluster 7" soon.) > > So what am I aiming at? Probably to claim that electro in its new forms > should be regarded as IDM (the concept, not a genre). Any takers? Ideas? > Am I totally off the mark here? > > > Cheers, > -- > nuutti-iivari meriläinen gordon at diversion dot org > http colon slash slash www dot diversion dot org slash > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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