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From:
Jeff Shoemaker
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Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:35:05 -0600
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Re: [idm] house vs. idm
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quoted 2 lines The simple fact is, house is predictable and boring to>The simple fact is, house is predictable and boring to >listen to,
only predictable and boring house is predictable and boring and i may not be bad looking--and all the
quoted 5 lines girls on the dance floor may be fine as fuck (i live>girls on the dance floor may be fine as fuck (i live >in miami, trust me)..but it's just cheesy, repetitive >music. Straight up...i can chill to house after ive >had about 5 beers and i dont care anymore what's on >and i'm gettin down.
you mean after your inhibitions have been reduced by alcohol? sounds like you "want" to get down, but something's stopping you. So basically i think house is
quoted 2 lines just definitely for having fun , and not for>just definitely for having fun , and not for >'listening' per say.
you know, all my raver/clubber friends think that they know all about idm too. they think they've got it pegged because they dropped the needle on EP7 or some Mego rec at the record store a year ago. it's all "squiggly, chirpy, boring" stuff. your wholesale dismissal of house as all "cheesy, repetitive" is as provincial and laughable as their assessment of idm. if you truly think that then you are simply listening to the wrong house. i know plenty of house djs that bring a shitload of thoughtfulness and emotion to their selection and spinning. Coy West and Tektite's Merrick Brown spring instantly to mind. the same mister Brown, by the way, that has released tunes by several respected "idm" guys as well as bringing the Stewart Walker full length to the world. frankly, it's as "intelligent" as anything else IMO. and a damn sight more delight per pound than a night of chin-stroking and trainspotting. what's more, i can sit down and listen to tapes of theirs and rock out at home. whether i'm rocking in a "house" way or an "idm" way is, truthfully, something that i don't think merits discussion at all. some crap miami house dj mixing up dubs of whitney houston songs is NOT house in a nutshell, as much as you want it to be. feel free to flaunt your ignorance as much as you like on the list, though, 'cause i'm sure you can find plenty of people to agree with you. what the hell kind of crap, misguided aceticism led us to this? when did a fundamental split between the mind and body become so hip for grown men? i mean, when i was a jack-boot wearing industrial kid in 1990 i felt that house was crap, but i was 15. since then i've watched industrial, techno, and most recently drum and bass lose all it's funk and drown in it's own sophomoric, i-can-now-grow-a-beard waste. now, in retrospect, it seems as if idm was tailor made for this end. sometimes i'm scared to shit of the politics of idm. i thought i left this shit behind in high school. . .that reminds me, there's a new Geddy Lee solo CD, so go geddit and show people how progressive your tastes are. respect to those that haven't lost the plot. ------------ 1642 try 621 ------------ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org