At 10:27 PM 22/10/00, Armchair Charlie wrote:
quoted 10 lines i'm very interested in the similarities and connections between industrial
>i'm very interested in the similarities and connections between industrial
>music and idm. i wonder how many people have become aware of idm through
>industrial. i, for one, became aware of idm through ambient. i remember
>my first idm purchases: aphex twin - saw2, ae - amber, boc - music has the
>right, and oval - diskont; all of which have respect by the
>ambient/chill-out audience. i would think that most idm fans got
>interested in idm through ambient and the more general electronic
>musics. (this is excluding the old-school idmers, those who've been there
>since artificial intelligence and earlier.) i wonder how many have become
>idm fans through meat beat manifesto instead of the orb. comments?
Well first of all, Meat Beat Manifesto was never really "industrial". They
were tagged as such (in North America, at least) due to thier material
being licenced through Wax Trax, a label that released mainly
electro-industrial in the 80s and early 90s. But I don't think the tag
really fit their music for the most part.
Putting that aside - count me as someone who came into the IDM scene mainly
from the industrial side of things. After being a li'l rivethead for the
last half of the 80s, and I started getting tired of all the bangy
gloom'n'doomy sort of stuff in the early 90s, and somehow found myself
listening to The Orb and Orbital and a few early "rave" records via friends.
The real turning point was seeing Greg Earle, an industrial old-timer like
myself, make a post to the industrial newsgroup ranting about some amazing
artist he'd discovered called The Aphex Twin. I couldn't find any AT stuff,
but found the Polygon Window album and was blown away. I caught the Toronto
stop on the Orbital/Aphex/Moby tour soon after, and aside from Moby, I was
even more blown away. And that's where it started for me.
quoted 2 lines can anyone name a few artists/albums that blur the lines between idm
> can anyone name a few artists/albums that blur the lines between idm
> and industrial?
I know that quite a few IDM artists consider Skinny Puppy to be an
influence. Avoid The Process and Rabies, but the rest of their albums are
pretty fine. And the post-Puppy project Download borders on what might be
considered IDM at times.
Coil have always been ones to jump genre lines as well, although their most
techno-flavoured album - Love's Secret Domain - is also their hardest to find.
Apparently a lot of the stuff on the Ant Zen and Hymen labels crosses the
borders between industrial, noise and IDM, but I'm not too familiar with
that scene so I'll let someone else guide the way.
Greg
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