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Armchair Charlie
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Fri, 20 Oct 2000 10:50:44 CDT
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Re: [idm] datach'i's we are always well thank you review (606
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quoted 4 lines fine, then. what drum and bass have you heard in the past year that>fine, then. what drum and bass have you heard in the past year that >you didn't like? it's a very general statement that you're making, >and until you name some names i can't help but think that you aren't >too clued.
be happy to name some names. _field_of_action_ by foul play productions is probably one of the most generic d+b records i've ever heard; new artist. the _metro_breaks_99:_deeper_drum_&_bass_from_darkest_toronto_ and _sonar_1.0_ compilations are both pretty stale, although i do generally like the labels the albums are on. "aparatus" (single) by tom b & kojak is boring. i think these releases would be much more bearable if they had come out years back.
quoted 4 lines you consistently refer to datach'i as dnb, yet i don't think that>you consistently refer to datach'i as dnb, yet i don't think that >it's "proper" dnb at all. "proper" dnb is what you find in the dj's >bags, and i haven't ever heard or seen datach'i or his ilk in a dj's >bag. sad, maybe, but true.
oh yeah, i totally agree with you on this one. i don't think of datach'i as proper d+b at all. he has a lot more background than foul play productions or whoever. it's this proper d+b you speak of that i don't believe there's much hope left for.
quoted 2 lines having said that, "proper" dnb is in a rather sad state, imho. not to>having said that, "proper" dnb is in a rather sad state, imho. not to >mince words, it's a fucking fascist boring bunch of crap.
this is more or less what i've been trying to spit out the whole time. so thank you for agreeing with me, finally. although, i gave a similar line in the first post and was considered to be flaunting ignorance.
quoted 5 lines there are guys doing other stuff, namely the guys i previously>there are guys doing other stuff, namely the guys i previously >mentioned doing the tweaky deconstructed thing, and then guys like >hospital and Intalex doing stuff on the more soulful side. again, i >wouldn't hesitiate to call all of this dnb, but i balk at calling >datach'i dnb.
well, like i said before, i wouldn't go as far as to call datach'i's music traditional, "proper" d+b. but i would call it deconstructionism, or "drill 'n' bass," not that i'm too fond with spin off genre titles (trip-hop). i'd say that drill 'n' bass could easily be considered a sub genre of d+b. so i guess i don't feel too bad about casually referring to datach'i as d+b. but i see your point, he brings a whole lot more to the table than what one would think of as just straight up d+b. this post could act as a response to Philip Sherburne's earlier post too. so yeah guys, just to confirm, i do recognize the differences between "drum 'n' bass" and "drill 'n' bass." will simmons Cipolin Structure Radio http://www.geocities.com/cipolinstructure/ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org