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From:
Ed Hall
To:
Its Dumb Music
Date:
Mon, 09 Oct 2000 18:15:52 -0700
Subject:
Re: [idm] datach'i/ Gamelan/ Oval
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EggyToast <youn0394@umn.edu> writes: : music has to have a purpose. Says who? And even if it does, why does the "purpose" need to be external to the listener? If I listen to the ambient sounds around me and mentally organize them into music, who are you to say that what I'm listening to isn't music? Traditionally, non-improvisational music has been a three-part affair. There is a composer, a player -- and a listener. Electronic music eliminates the player, while improvisational music eliminates the composer. The one constant is the listener, and I would argue that you can eliminate both of the others and still have music. So even if we accept that music need have purpose, why does that purpose need to be external to the listener? Claiming otherwise leans toward the simplistic argument that music is some sort of (universal?) language, a view discredited on neurophysiological grounds (music and language use different parts of the brain) as well as philosophically suspect. That said, there are such a multitude of ways to define music, from mental states to physical acts, from social events to abstract philosophy, that it is quite impossible to come up with a definition of just what music *isn't*, since it *is* so many things. "Which is more musical: a truck passing by a factory or a truck passing by a music school?" -- John Cage Cheers, -Ed --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org