You can only EASILY get away with something "crappy" if the audience is a
bunch of dummies. "Experimental stuff" is NOT the same as other sounds. It
requires a thought and effort to begin to understand . Not that experimental
can't be good to just listen to, haven't you heard the latest betabodega
coalition comp or some of Fals.ch label? And who can ever say they don't
like Raymond Scott? or Pierre Henry? I suppose someone could, but I don't
think it would be because they were in the realm of talent of a Britney
Spears- and Raymond Scott was amazingly prolific! By the by, a LOT of EVERY
genre is not that great, or haven't you noticed? That is no reason to
exclude a genre from your listening.
----- Original Message -----
From: <glammer@another.com>
To: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff?
Well....it´s not that I have a problem with experimental stuff, it´s just
that a lot of it is not that great. You can easily to get away with
something crappy if you call it avant-garde. And I think it would be quite
boring if everyone in the electronic music scene (or whatever you should
call it..) started making music which only consists of noise and glitches.
On the other hand, a band like DAT Politics shows that you can have the best
of two worlds: weirdo noise AND silly melodies.
-----Original Message-----
From : analog lifeform <analog_life@hotmail.com>
To : glammer@another.com
Date : 11 September 2000 07:09:56
Subject : Re: Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff?
I can see your perspective, but at the same time I think it all has it's own
quoted 7 lines value. It's seems that are a number of new things that are being done to
>value. It's seems that are a number of new things that are being done to
>further electronic music in general, and I personally think that minimalism
>is one of those things.
>
>On the other hand, as someone who's been a musician for 15 years (and not
>just a button pusher!) I can see why the whole minimal thing is a bit hard
>to swallow for some people. It does lack some of the emotion that is
usually
quoted 14 lines associated with "music".
>associated with "music".
>
>I think having I background on the technical side of electronic music makes
>listening to, and appreciateing, minimal stuff a lot easier.
>
>Sorry for the diatribe!
>
>>From: glammer@another.com
>>To: idm@hyperreal.com
>>Subject: Re: Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff?
>>Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 09:43:17 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
>>
>>
>>I don´t know......it seems like everytime people want to point to
something
quoted 3 lines that´s really innovative they always drag up minimalism. It´s like either
>>that´s really innovative they always drag up minimalism. It´s like either
>>you´re copying Autechre or you´re into this "new" fantastic thing that´s
>>the future of electronic music. I mean, you don´t necesarilly have to
sound
quoted 89 lines like Autechre just because you´re not making unlistenable experimental
>>like Autechre just because you´re not making unlistenable experimental
>>stuff...
>>To me Fennezs, Farmers manual and tha whole Mego scene is not all that.
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From : analog lifeform <analog_life@hotmail.com>
>>To : thecker@colba.net; idm@hyperreal.org
>>Date : 06 September 2000 19:59:12
>>Subject : Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff?
>>
>> >OK, so in YOUR opinion what is the future of IDM...?
>> >
>> >Armand Van Heldon?
>> >
>> >
>> >>From: Tim Hecker <thecker@colba.net>
>> >>To: idm@hyperreal.org
>> >>Subject: Re:[idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff?
>> >>Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 16:52:50 -0400
>> >>
>> >>12k/mego/clickclank et al will never be the "future of idm"
>> >>while its fun to listen to when you take acid...its mostly
>> >>the pencil neck geeks who get into it and dont know alot
>> >>about sex.
>> >>i use minimal shit to back up blacksabbath & speed metal
>> >>on the decks.
>> >>
>> >>people need to fucking party and people should start
>> >>understanding this simple fact!
>> >>
>> >>:)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Andreas Tilliander wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > to me it sometimes seems that the minimal side is the future of idm.
>> >>because
>> >> > i´m tired of people making autechre-like songs, with covers which
>> >>reminds me
>> >> > of designers republic, and songtitles like aster chreti or something
>> >>like
>> >> > that.
>> >> >
>> >> > but when 12k, mego, raster noton and others, get sold in as many
>> >>copies as
>> >> > the warpstuff, then everyone else will make music like that. so
>> >>where´s the
>> >> > underground in that?
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: Scott Allison [mailto:Scott_Allison@Mediacentric.com]
>> >> > Sent: den 31 augusti 2000 23:39
>> >> > To: 'idm@hyperreal.org'
>> >> > Subject: [idm] is anyone into microscopic stuff?
>> >> >
>> >> > Just wondering if anyone pays any attention to the smaller sounds in
>> >>the
>> >> > electronic universe? I am really into ae, but i also love stuff off
>> >>12K and
>> >> > other such labels. Just wanted to know what everyone thinks of the
>> >>minimal
>> >> > side of idm.
>> >> >
>> >> > -scott
>> >> >
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