boy , i hate to get in an arguement late here... but i think the 'c' refers
to 4/4 and the 'c' with the line means cut time...
anyone? ... y'think?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Pojman" <ian@webice.net>
To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: [idm] time signatures - origin/ancient greece
quoted 1 line Something else of interest: Originally 3/4 was considered 'perfect' time> Something else of interest: Originally 3/4 was considered 'perfect' time
by
quoted 25 lines the greeks, our musical forefathers in many ways ... they gave it a circle> the greeks, our musical forefathers in many ways ... they gave it a circle
> as a time signature, and gave 4/4 a slightly broken circle, which we now
> still use and call "common time"... (the slightly broken circle happens to
> look like a C...)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Lowes [mailto:thomas.lowes@worcester.oxford.ac.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 4:31 PM
> To: idm@hyperreal.org
> Subject: [idm] time signatures
>
>
>
> >
> > Any time signature can sound like just about any other because there is
> > nothing that says you've got to put the kick drum sound on the first
> > downbeat or any of the downbeats for that matter.
> >
> > If you superimpose nothing but quarter note triplets into a 4/4 pattern,
> its
> > gonna sound like 3/4.
> >
> Yes - that is a better point to make. The thing is I think time signatures
> needn't really apply to idm (nearly all is 4/4 really), but composers
would
quoted 6 lines use> use
> it to lay down the basic rhythm of a bar - so 6/8 would have two clear
> beats,
> split into triplets - once that is laid down as a basis, when duplets are
> used
> (ie 2 across 3) it doesn't sound like 4/4 necessarily, but more
interesting
quoted 3 lines than> than
> that and variety is added. In a different way, 2/4 would be used to write
> marches, with a clear 'one-two-one-two' feel - not 'one-two-three-four'.
If
quoted 5 lines anyone own's Plaid's 'Undoneson' - have a listen out because I think i> anyone own's Plaid's 'Undoneson' - have a listen out because I think it is
> one
> of the few (idm) tracks I've heard that sound more 2/4 than 4/4.
>
> To take the discussion (perhaps) to a different area - I find it
interesting
quoted 2 lines how> how
> difficult it is when making music to escape from the four bar (or
multiples
quoted 3 lines of)> of)
> segments that western music seems to be so ingrained into.I mean loops in
> particular - chord sequences, beats whatever, sound most natural when
looped
quoted 4 lines in> in
> multiples of 4, and new sections being brought in and out of the mix, and
> the
> music becomes predictable - you begin to expect something to happen every
4
quoted 15 lines bars> bars
> and if nothing changes then the groove just gets repetitive.
>
> Hmmm. Cue comedy comments a-plenty...
>
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