well, I guess I should go read a duchamp biography...anyone reccomend a good
one?
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quoted 5 lines From: "BEN OWEN" <enenbb@hotmail.com>
>From: "BEN OWEN" <enenbb@hotmail.com>
>To: solson@risd.edu, idm@hyperreal.org, saw123@ixpres.com
>Subject: dali + surrealist
>Date: Wed, Jul 19, 2000, 12:55 PM
>quoted 119 lines yeah, maybe you should visit st petersburg, fl
> yeah, maybe you should visit st petersburg, fl
> his work is quite different seeing it in a form other than
> the poster prints (im not trying to be a smart ass)
> did duchamp ever leave that cube behind?
>
> the biography of Remedios Varo could be of interest,
> especially the politics od Breton and the lack
> of art historians to clarify the work of many other
> women at the time, so mistakenly grouped with the surrealist.
>
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>>From: "Stephen Olson" <solson@risd.edu>
>>To: <idm@hyperreal.org>,<saw123@ixpres.com>
>>Subject: Re: [idm] american roll call (kid vs. lex)
>>Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 11:47:36 -0400
>>
>>oh christ...dali is for 7th graders..."oh wow, this image is something and
>>something else at the time! neat! and it's all hyper-realistic like a dutch
>>master, but weird like a dream...i want to fuck my mom, and gala, gala
>>looks like my mom, i'm an asshole"
>>
>>dali has not stood the test of time...there's a great deal more interesting
>>work from the surrealists, and more importantly the dadaists...though maybe
>>i should go to that museum in florida huh?
>>
>>christ with a hypercube...i suck vermeer's dick
>>steve ferrari
>>
>> >>> "steve " <saw123@ixpres.com> 07/19/00 00:30 AM >>>
>>salvador dali was/is the savior of modern art. Everything else in
>>comparison is a shallow statement...where as Dali touched something so vast
>>and thoroughly that you cannot be but saturated... (not to mention his
>>sculptures) ...andy warhol had a factory to put icons on things....much
>>modern art needs an explanation and these are usually absent. Isn't it
>>warhol who said everyone gets there 15 minutes of fame...maybe because he
>>knew his was closing fast....
>>
>>the work of someone like Dali will live forever. a cambells soup can and
>>picture of elvis or monroe is lost already on most people under 20...warhol
>>was "neat" Dali is simply timeless. Pick any time for him to be
>>born....now, 50 years from now... and he'd still have the same effect.
>>
>>I'm not saying warhol was a waste....I think he was more a celebrity than
>>an
>>artist though....right place right time and all that
>>
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>> >From: "Stephen Olson" <solson@risd.edu>
>> >To: <uncutvein@hotmail.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
>> >Subject: Re: [idm] american roll call (kid vs. lex)
>> >Date: Tue, Jul 18, 2000, 8:11 PM
>> >
>>
>> > spelling aside, you should get your facts straight...andy warholhas all
>> > sorts of staying power...um, he's pretty much (along with rauschenberg,
>> > johns, and duchamp) the basis for most art (2 dimensional, not to
>>mention
>> > warhol's influence on film, and yeh, there is one non-believers)
>>conceived
>> > since the 70's...they teach college level classes on him...let's just
>>hope
>> > they do the same for kid606 (i forget if miguel is using a space now or
>>not)
>> >
>> > steve ferrari
>> >
>> > ps- soccergirl and gq on the eq rule, deal with it
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>>> "rob salls" <uncutvein@hotmail.com> 07/18/00 23:24 PM >>>
>> >
>> > Mainly as it goes, you are all looking like a bunch of twats.there
>>was
>> > something like 200 messages about kid hype and lex.. Then the whole
>>thing of
>> > saying that lex is in that ae,mas and schematic camp?? What is schematic
>>but
>> > a cheap imitation of ae for america?/ Then mas what for germany?/ I
>>don't
>> > see what you people are talking about. The fact is kid hype is nonething
>>but
>> > that. Look how much goes in to talk rather than music.... Lex is fine,
>>sure
>> > maybe his earlier stuff is very derived from obvious places, But he is
>>new
>> > and I am sure that will change.It takes a long time to develop your own
>> > unique expression with out being taken by your surroundings interests or
>> > influences. Kid on the other hand is like an andy warhol for the
>>2000s(see
>> > how long he will last ). And ps I don't give a shit about my spelling
>>,so
>> > piss off!
>> >
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