Hol-up(oooops, wait a second Wendy)..
All of this is fine and well, and yeah, U and Lance should hook up with all
that info....but ahhh...
What I pointed to was how are taste and values are influenced by people whom
we never meet face to face...and how the overall comment was interesting, TO
ME.....and what I meant by the group being hidden is that many of us hear
the big named IDM and Techno artist, but what of the ones that we dont hear
about, marketing and promotions, I know(oh here is an example Emmett and his
Parc Mutzle[damn I hope thats right] project?)
...I had this more in mind, when I posted his comment...not bustin the UK's
balls and saying they dont have a scene!
Yea and N fact, while in Manchester, every bar I passed had bang'n Techno
coming out of it(many, sorry not everyone)....and I heard hip-hop at-a club
called Planet K, I believe...
I am real close to giving this Internet shit up and joing Paul Smith(a.k.a
Nuron), ha ha...
Lay-da
Hk!
-----Original Message-----
From: Wendy K
To: Kelley Hackett
Cc: idm@hyperreal.org
Sent: 6/21/00 5:51 PM
Subject: RE: [idm] lack of idm in uk
I gotta step in here gang, there is definitely idm in the uk - you
just gotta find it. Wire magazine
http://www.thewire.co.uk which
covers it extensively.
Their recent issue lists dates for Funkstorung (sorry I dont have
those German dots), DJ Krush whose at Glastonbury this weekend, and
was the place I first read about Kid606 whose been in London
recently. I used to attend Scanners regular night at the ICA (ok, it
might have been black turtle necks, but it was cool). There's also
been a night called Sprawl that has been running for five years in
London - currently last Thursday of the month at the Global Internet
cafe, and it's run by si-(cut)db, Tenis and BitTonic who we recently
featured on
http://www.piratetv.net and just this Monday did a mix
for Coldcut's Solid Steel which should be up archived next week.
I feel like I had this argument ten years ago when someone said there
was no UK hip hop (when acid house has taken over England and I was
writing about artists like Silver Bullet, Blade, MC Mello, Duke and a
whole host of UK hip hop originators) and I wrote a blasting article
in a magazine called the Herb Garden saying there was loads of hip
hop - you just had to go out there and find it.
Yes, people that go to raves like Gatecrasher and end up in the
trance arena listening to Paul Van Dyke, instead of getting their
heads into the MetalheadZ tent to check out James Lavelle, Coldcut or
Goldie ARE sheep, but then so is the rest of America that rates
Britney or whatever is most mainstream at the moment over the
interesting stuff like Negativland, Survival Research (ok they dont
make music), Burning Man or half a dozen more interesting things....
Oh, and there's lots of provocative idm stuff on vinyl - have you
visited Atlas Records, Ambient Soho, Mr. Bongo - and that's just
london - what about Fat City & Eastern Bloc or Decoy Records in
Manchester -- There's one idm vinyl shop in every major town in the
UK, for real...
Mediocrity and mainstream will always be there. There are as many
sheep in America as there is in the UK, please. People are people.
Get real.
Provocative shit is why idm exists, isn't it? If you want it, you'll
find it - Somehow I've always managed.
Dom - Which Warp night are you referring to? The one at the Drome or
Warps tenth anniversary party last year? I went to both. My inbox in
the last few days has been flooded with things happening at 291 and
various other venues in London, and other things in San FrandisKo.
quoted 2 lines I hate to enter your conversation, but below was such an
>I hate to enter your conversation, but below was such an
>interesting(provocative is a more appropriate word) comment that I had
to
quoted 1 line further ask, where do U think this stems from....or does anyone else
>further ask, where do U think this stems from....or does anyone else
have
quoted 1 line comments on this.....? This comment, TO ME, points to the fact of how
>comments on this.....? This comment, TO ME, points to the fact of how
our
quoted 1 line taste and values are somewhat governed by a Larger, external, sorta
>taste and values are somewhat governed by a Larger, external, sorta
hidden
quoted 4 lines group...
>group...
>
>This isnt social history class I know, but its sure interesting, and
>musically related, I think........sorry I am back to the
shadows........
quoted 2 lines people in england i believe to be
> >>people in england i believe to be
>sheep when it comes to thier musical prefernces as they have a fear of
being
quoted 26 lines an outcast for having a unique point of view
>an outcast for having a unique point of view
>
>Hk!
>-----Original Message-----
>From: antoinecyril.ahtuam@which.net
>[mailto:antoinecyril.ahtuam@which.net]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 6:15 AM
>To: hardbarker@hotmail.com; idm@hyperreal.org
>Subject: [idm] lack of idm in uk
>
>
>The point is that there is a scene for it but it is very underground
>here in london. i have been to only one night that i can call perfect
>idm, and that was at night called warp. but this only existed in the
>chill out room. also the fact is that people in england i believe to be
>sheep when it comes to thier musical prefernces as they have a fear of
>being an outcast for having a unique point of view. the pop charts back
>up this argument i believe. i think that this kinda shitty!!!!!!!
>there's a market for it out there it,s just exploiting it!!!!!!
>also people prefer to mix vinyl and i have found it hard to find any
>decent idm material on vinyl.this could also be where the problem
>lies!!!!
>
>i hope i was of some help!!!!!!
>
>DomDelay
coldcut on da radio mon nite 12am-2am gmt
http://www.bbc.co.uk/londonlive
http://www.worldtimezone.com
zentertainment: wed nite 9pm - 3am
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