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From:
Laurent Knauth
To:
Jared Dunne , Clint Anderson
Cc:
kent williams , David Bohan , do id
Date:
Sun, 10 May 2015 21:19:29 +0200
Subject:
Re: Jlin album out.
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*@ Clint :* the software you're looking for seems available out there for instance — it's called Saiko : http://www.oocities.org/zorki6/ Back in the days, i've been endlessly bitchin' about Psytrance myself ; but for some obscure reasons — i.e. nostalgia i guess —, i find myself kind of enjoying it nowadays. *@ Jared :* i think we quite have the same definition of hustlers but i don't want to delve into details. Likewise, i also understand your frustrations regarding music you can't think well of — the thing is : are you really that sure that it's just as easy as you think (i mean how can you make sure that you're not missing something) ? If so, then i urge you to look somewhere else so you can level up instead of getting down. Last, i don't eat bacon since i'm veggy, but on a daily basis i enjoy Feta made from sheep's milk and honey made from hard working bees. Good evening everyone. On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 98 lines I hear you, Laurent. Just to be clear though-- when I mention "hustling",> I hear you, Laurent. Just to be clear though-- when I mention "hustling", > I'm talking about the talent/drive to promote our own music to the point > where we can, at the very least, consistently book shows, not the > pimps/players/prostitute definition of a hustler. I've gone to countless > shows at respectable venues where the house is packed, but the music is > mediocre at best. Still, I have to give props to that musician for having > enough hustle to book that show and fill the house, that's not easy. > Period. > > And I'll be the first to admit that I often fight that inner-pretentious > and judgmental prick who is quick to judge the quality of someone's music. > But who am I to tell someone that their music sucks. If they enjoy making > it, and they're moved by it, what a wonderful thing. There are worse > things you could be doing with your time. > > My point in relation to the popularity of Footwork as a genre-- As > musicians, I think we have a hard time enjoying music that we feel is sooo > easy to make. It's difficult to have perspective, and to walk the line of > respecting or disrespecting music that doesn't have much thought, effort or > sincerity. But it's amazing what a little drinking and dancing can do to > that judgmental side of myself-- just feel it and stop thinking so much you > dumbass! I think that all music has its place. > > I get what you're saying, Laurent, about protecting yourself against a war > you cannot win. But for me and my holier than thou side of myself, it's > about enjoying the beautiful struggle and its deeper meaning, despite the > fact of knowing it's a fight that cannot be won. > > And I also like bacon made from pigs who are raised by people named > Kevin. > > > > On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 3:25 AM, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I mostly agree with you and Clint actually, but >> *Pimps-pushers-prostitutes**** playing such a big part (and name) in >> «electronic music», i'd rather chase the sun. >> >> It's not about the nice guy playing political correctness then, it's >> about protecting yourself against a war you cannot win. >> >> Eventually, *Hustlers *is the only «electronic music documentary» that >> will never hit the streets. >> Well, it already exists in various flavors, but it's named otherwise. >> >> *** : *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yIZu6CNVl8 >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yIZu6CNVl8>* >> >> On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> It's not about musical talent. It's about hustle. Yes there's no doubt >>> that hustling is a talent. Unfortunately, many hustlers aren't musically >>> talented. And while I agree with "if you don't have anything nice to say, >>> don't say anything at all", I also believe that if we truly care about >>> something (in this case it's music), at some point we have to stand up and >>> speak. Or, we can just be content with being content, and cower in the >>> corner our whole life, being afraid of offending someone, and wondering why >>> things aren't changing. Besides, the people that are most easily offended >>> are those who are acting offended on someone's else's behalf, not because >>> they feel as though they've been insulted themselves. So many false >>> martyrs. Especially with the internet. :) >>> >>> On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> As spotted by Matthieu Debliqui's moniker, today's music is full-on >>>> subjectivity. >>>> >>>> From then, why should one use MIDI CC such as velocity — which he, >>>> besides, does (to my ears at least) — or whatever soundsets if he won't >>>> want to ? >>>> >>>> Not that i like Jlin's stuff : i actually couldn't feel farther from >>>> most of this mailing-list prescriptions but — sorry for crawler-sounding — >>>> i generally try to (but unfortunately not always succeed) stick to the « >>>> *if-you-don't-have-anything-nice-to-say,-don't-say-anything-at-all* >>>> »-saying. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> my point is just that yes there are always going to be people better >>>>> than you >>>>> but that said, that just means you have to try even harder, or at >>>>> least try >>>>> bach was so talented that he had to do things like that to probably >>>>> even challenge himself a little >>>>> but anyone can download a pdf and learn about how to make their >>>>> trap/footwork song better >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>> >>>>>