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From:
Christophe McKeon
To:
Twine sound
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Date:
Wed, 31 May 2000 13:32:10 -0400
Subject:
Re: [idm] Detroit in the news
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1. I'm not sure what you mean. 2. I don't own a thesaurus. 3. There is never a moment during my day when I am not listening to music. 4. Why the animosity? 5. By your comments I don't think you understood a word I said. 6. Cheers Twine sound wrote:
quoted 126 lines "How is what I am hearing part of something else? How and with what >does> >"How is what I am hearing part of something else? How and with what >does > >it work?" > > if you don't understand this, you need to listen to more music. ;) > > Chris, you should spend less time with your thesaurus, and more time > listening to music. ;) > > (See long winded writing below) > > Peace . . . > Chad > > >From: Christophe McKeon <c.mckeon@rcn.com> > >CC: idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [idm] Detroit in the news > >Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 12:41:59 -0400 > > > >A "catalyst" as far as I am informed. Is that which makes some kind of > >reaction/transformation possible, which at least in chemistry, would not > >have > >taken place w/o its presence. Kind of like the element which brings the > >whole > >ensemble to a more active state. A 'key' of sorts, opening up the > >possibility > >of emergent and synergistic behavior of the entire ensemble, whatever it > >may > >be. I think it is safe to say that this is also it's adopted vernacular > >meaning. I think if we want to talk about catalysts, we should perhaps be > >talking about the relationship between humans and machines after the advent > >of > >the transistor. In other words, music has been around for ever, and > >"electronic > >music" was thought up, at least in theory, far before any body actually > >built > >the machines capable of making it. The catalyst in this case is the > >technology, > >particularly the transistor, and the tremendous variety of new music, > >culture, > >and ideas which have proliferated since it's 'birth', the "reaction". It is > >obvious that people have been making all kinds of music using electronic > >instruments, as Behn wrote, "all over the world", and I think it is > >ludicrous > >to point to any one place as it's point of origin. The whole issue is > >problematic, and to reduce it's genealogy to a punctal and linear > >progression > >doesn't really do it justice. In fact even to think of the technology as > >catalyst needs to be thought about, since technology and music have existed > >for > >a very long time. I would even venture the contention that they both > >predate > >the advent of what we now like to call 'homo sapiens'. Animals are quite > >capable of artifice and engineering, and as we all know, making music as > >well > >(just open your window). > >Here I will most likely be charged with anthropomorphising the question, > >but I > >would argue, that it is more of a case of geomorphisis, i.e. we are > >animals, > >and we make music just like all the other animals. What goes through a > >little > >birds mind as it alights my window sill and is bombarded by tweeky, high > >pitched noise breaks? I can assure you that something does, even if it > >isn't > >the words "I hate that techno stuff, it's so soulless and unbirdlike". > >Back to the point; I think that when people look for points of origins, > >grounds, roots, they are more often than not motivated by some force other > >than > >trying to really understand the way whichever system they are looking at > >actually 'becomes'. And 'becoming', in music or any where else involves > >transverse and viroid cross-contamination. Do you need a "Big bang" or a > >"Genesis" to make the world intelligible? Why not have indeterminate open > >ended > >origins - just as music has not yet been put through the histrionic mill; > >no > >one would argue that there is some kind of a final state in store for it. > >The question which I think would be interesting to ask in this case: "How > >is > >what I am hearing part of something else? How and with what does it work?" > >Regards, > >Christophe > > > > > > > > > >Kurtis Behn wrote: > > > > > > I'm amused by this... just by reading a book or watching a > >documentary > > > > you can get the full history of electronic music... i must admit both > >are > > > > good resources for what has occurred in the history of electronic > >music, > > > > but detroit is NOT the catalyst for launching electronic music. > > > > > > > In fact, I'd tend to believe every section of this earth has had a > >part in > > > > launching electronic music... from the "techno pioneers" in detroit > >to > > > > the warehouse and garage djs in chicago and nyc to the d&b creators in > >the > > > > UK to john cage in champaign/urbana, IL basically every section of > >earth > > > > has had *some* part in making electronic music what it is today. > > > > > > While I tend to believe/agree with your second paragraph, I don't think > >that > > > that conflicts with the previous statement about detroit. I think > >you're > > > misunderstanding what was meant by catalyst, as in a jump start, not > > > necessarily the source of all things electronic. > > > > > > k > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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