quoted 1 line Thanks for the "fucking retard" comment> Thanks for the "fucking retard" comment
any time, son, any time.
quoted 3 lines The fact that they are seeing such a small return on their "art" is also> The fact that they are seeing such a small return on their "art" is also
> something i don't agree with, but you know if i'm in a job with low pay I
> move on. But thats a different argument.
yes, if by "different" you mean "retarded."
you're saying you want to see artists get paid MORE, but you want to pay
LESS to buy their music?
think about that for a second.
plus, (and this is my original point) we're talking about "IDM" labels here,
these labels are not run by fatcats who take a swim in a big vault of gold
coins every day. they're run by regular dudes out of their bedrooms. they're
run by people like you and me. if these labels start paying more to the
artist, they've gotta charge more to the distributors so that they stay in
the clear.
and let me reiterate: VERY FEW are making a living off their label.
financing their mortgage is not what dictates the price they charge for
their records. wanting to not lose money and to be able to make new records
is.
and to pre-empt a rehashing of the naive idea that labels could just "cut
out all the middlemen" to eliminate the mark-ups, which someone posted about
earlier:
here's a strictly hypothetical example: say i run a record label called
Tigerbeat6. as of now, we sell our CDs to various distributors (forced
exposure, hardwax, darla, etc) and directly to certain stores (safety in
numbers, bent crayon, etc). but the mp3 d00dz have a revolution and we are
forced to cut out the middle men and sell all our records directly
ourselves. First thing that we loes is a lot of TIME. The time we could be
making tracks, setting up and playing shows and tours, networking and
getting our tracks out on other labels and on comps and doing remixes,
organizing new releases for the label, etc -- now we're spending a lot more
of this time processing orders for our CDs. getting the orders via email,
printing them out, putting the discs in a box, cashing the checks, etc.
basically, we'd have to do the work of a distro or store (which is a
full-time job for those doing it now). also, we have more cost to figure
into making records, too - we have to ship them individually to every
customer that orders them. if we're a big enough label, we may even have to
hire more people to help us do all this processing/shipping. so there's
going to be some mark-up anyway.
and the worst problem of all with this situation that i see, is that new
releases are going to come MUCH slower. now we can drop something like
50-120 cds at a time on a distro like forced exposure or hardwax and get
paid for all of them in 30 or 60 days (sooner if they run out)... under the
"no middlemen" law of the mp3 d00d regime, we'd be making money X$ at a
time, with each order. So in order to have a big pile of money to put out a
new release with, we'd have to wait quite a while until enough orders roll
in. And the majority of orders for a new CD aren't going to all come in
within 2 weeks of it being released. The orders are spread out over a long
period of time -- people wait to hear it, wait until enough mags come out
with good reviews of it, or just wait until they have enough money, etc.
So basically, this would HAVE to be a full-time job. In order to have enough
time to make tracks, put together the releases, handle all the selling and
shipping of the releases.. in order to do that i'd BETTER be making a
somewhat comfortable living off of the whole thing.
now i'm not the biggest fan of capitalism. but i AM a fan of eating. and
since i live in america, until there's a mp3 d00d revolution and things are
meted out based on need, i'm going to try and not lose money with my musical
endeavors. if that means that someone has to drop 12, 13, 14 bucks on my cd,
i don't think that's the worst thing in the world.
quoted 2 lines Your aggression is not appreciated, go get a punch bag or masterbate more> Your aggression is not appreciated, go get a punch bag or masterbate more
> often.
hey! i masturbate plenty thank you very much.
-rk
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