quoted 2 lines I thought I'd save bandwidth and weigh in on a bunch of stuff that's been>I thought I'd save bandwidth and weigh in on a bunch of stuff that's been
>flying around the list this week in one e-mail.
oh hey, that sounds good :) i'll do that too
quoted 1 line I post this list for the people that is rather new in the Intelligent>> I post this list for the people that is rather new in the Intelligent
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>> stuff like me (I had been listening to the "other" electronic music...
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>> called "dumb" for many years).
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>see, this is the problem with a name like Intelligent Dance Music -- it
>suggests that other Dance music is NON-Intelligent ... I'm not saying
>there isn't a huge mess of dumb dance music out there but it's not so much
>the "intelligence" of the music that intrigues me as the individualism.
oh my. how incredibly profound! instead of intelligent dance music, it's
individual dance music. and we can keep the silly acronym too.
hmm.. that sounded sarcastic. actually i think it's a rather good idea.
it's not really something you play at a club for everyone, but it's
definitely something that people listen to more when they're by themselves.
and the dancing thing is more true, because as was discussed here quite a
while ago, someone dancing at a club is likely feeling the music in a
similar but markedly different way from someone who's dancing to it sitting
at home typing away (ahem.. hehe). the music is also made by individuals
based on individual taste, and [usually] is made for other individuals to
listen to (as opposed to mindless clones at a "rave" or "club" (no offense
to the ravers and clubbers on the list).
other topic:
all the mp3 stuff is interesting, i'm sure, but it sounds like all of the
people arguing on this list are under the impression that people like ninja
tune are the same size as labels like warner, atlantic, etc.
from experience, i've never been able to find good idm (in reference to my
reappropriated labelling above (hehe)) on these free-for-all sites. i have
gotten mp3's from friends, but that's not much different than having them
lend you the cd or making a tape of it. i've found aphex twin on napster
and like oth.net (which never works anyways), but i mean, who *doesn't* have
come to daddy?
if the superstructure of the recording industry changes from mp3's, the big
labels will lose out because their entire system is based on controlling
"fads" and "trends". the seattle "grunge" thing was already full blown in
seattle long before the industry got ahold of it, and they killed it (imo).
people like metallica and dr. dre write music about destroying the system
because it gets them more publicity, but they're all perfectly fine getting
a check from the system. people like ninjatune, skam, pitchcadet, etc.,
pretty much avoid the system. i mean, geez, in amon tobin's new cd he
thanks the montreal ninja crew and the people subscribed to this list. amon
tobin isn't making the amount of money as metallica is, and hence, since
less people are even aware of amon tobin's existence, fewer people are
buying the cd's, and it's getting posted as mp3's in much fewer quantities.
it would be rather absurd, in a pop-culture viewpoint, if there were
headlines all over saying "Ninjatune Fights Napster! Amon Tobin Cancels
Remainder Of US Tour!".
time for a generalization: most people who enjoy listening to metallica, or
dr. dre, or similar (there are tons), don't really care about the music.
they just like getting mad or angry or bopping/banging their head to
something. most people who enjoy autechre are surprisingly proud of the
autechre they own. there's a difference... hmm.. i wonder why... =)
-derek
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