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From:
Andrew Duke
To:
Blag
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Date:
Thu, 30 Dec 1999 23:53:53 -0400
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Re: (idm) who's your daddy?
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Big props to Blood & Fire for lovingly reissuing this classic and underappreciated seminal music, and putting so much info in the liner notes. Andrew Duke :) Blag wrote:
quoted 60 lines On Thu, 30 Dec 1999 Cesium5Hz@aol.com wrote:> On Thu, 30 Dec 1999 Cesium5Hz@aol.com wrote: > > > Actually, I think this Zen Artist is better known as Mad Professor and I > > doubt that he was referring to our rather limited conception of linear time. > > All Dub certainly did not come from King Tubby. It came from the > > shamanist-rhythmic spheres of the witchdoctor, which in African culture is > > the source of the mystical experience - that which allows the use of trance > > in healing. This rhythmic trance was and is very similar in structure to > > modern techno music. Both forms are uniquely intertwined - one reflects the > > effect of trance, the other of the dance. It is not coincidental that modern > > electronic dub music ala Basic Channel, Chain Reaction and Rhythm & Sound > > camps have a strong basis in mystical music - the reduction in sound > > structure is their extension into the spirit world. > > The dub was, is and ever shall be... > > Umm, you can talk about witchdoctors and mystics if you want, but King > Tubby invented dub. Period. I'm sure if you asked the Mad Professor > directly, he'd also tell you that King Tubby is the "dub originator." > Don't take it from me, take it from Steve Barrow: > > "Today the remix and dub version are commonplace in popular music; less > widely appreciated is the fact that these techniques were pioneered in a > tiny studio at 18 Bromilly Avenue in the Kingston district called > Waterhouse. That pioneer of dub was an electronics engineer and sound > system operator named Osbourne Ruddock, but to the crowds who flocked to > his dances, and the countless singers and record producers who utilised > his skills, he was known as King Tubby." > > You can download the rest from bloodandfire.co.uk, it's the liner notes to > "Dub Gone Crazy." > > Every style of music is based on what came before, and no one benefits > from skipping the intermediaries. Jumping straight back to some african > witchdoctor without giving any props to King Tubby is just plain wrong. > > Where does Fela Kuti fit into this? He's a lot closer to a witchdoctor > than King Tubby was, I mean, he was in Africa, and he did 20 minute long > songs with trance inducing precussion and call and response sections, but > I wouldn't describe *anything* that he did as "dub." How does that fit? > > I guess I'm freaking out a little bit too much, but Tubby is completely > overlooked by just about every electronic music fan I've ever met in my > life, and I can't figure out why, mainly because he was a fucking genius > *and* none of ths stuff we're listening to today would even exist if he > didn't come up with the flying cymbal (and those spring-reverb > thunderclaps and the dropped in test tones, etc etc) first. > > You can't go to the record store and talk to a witchdoctor for > inspiration, but you can go and buy a King Tubby album. I'd say that King > Tubby is more of an inspiration to most musicians than witchdoctors are. > > Umm, can I get an amen? > > .Bil. > > [[obtain clearance before copying]] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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