Journalistic laziness? It's nothing of the sort. The fact of the matter is
that there are hundreds of small labels out there who can't get a look in
when it comes to the music press (for a multitude of reasons) who are
desperate to find sympathetic journalists and publications. Five years
publishing Magic Feet, the only magazine that created a level playing field
in its reviews section, taught me this. What's more, the private mails I've
had since I posted the message indicate that plenty of labels were very glad
for the opportunity to send their music to someone who will actually listen
to it and try and get it some coverage. Labels on tight budgets need to know
that whoever they're sending review material to will at least try and do
something with it: it's no good just sending stuff to a magazine's main
office and hoping that it'll reach the right writer, which, nine times out
of ten, it won't.
And for your information, I have done a little fingerwork in my time, which
is why I have a database of nearly a thousand contacts in the techno sphere.
Posting the info to the list was simply a handy way of reaching a few more
people I hadn't previously had any contact with.
Why on earth would anyone have a problem with journalists who "take their
music-gathering public"?
TOM
----- Original Message -----
From: Dark Swan
To: tomr@proweb.co.uk ; darkswan@hotmail.com
Cc: idm@hyperreal.org
Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: (idm) XFade/XLR8R Magazine reviews...
Glad to see you're "really fucking sorry" instead of just "sorry."
Relishing the pleasure that gave me.
Begging v. inviting. Either way, it's still journalistic laziness. Do your
"inviting" off-list. And oh, I know, it's SO hard to ask for email addys
and do a little bit of fingerwork gathering info instead of an annoying
blanket email.
XFade v. Rolling Stone. Difference? Although your logic is indubitable,
it's called "a few million more issues," natch.
Oh, and I have nothing against small labels; rather like them, truth be
told, as well as small magazines. I do, however, dislike writers who take
their music-gathering public...about as much as the list dislikes my special
flavor of posting. Tell you what: I'll stop the bitter words if you'll
stop the laziness.
The Dark Swan
quoted 158 lines From: "Tom Robbins" <tomr@proweb.co.uk>
>From: "Tom Robbins" <tomr@proweb.co.uk>
>Reply-To: "Tom Robbins" <tomr@proweb.co.uk>
>To: "Dark Swan" <darkswan@hotmail.com>
>CC: <idm@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: (idm) XFade/XLR8R Magazine reviews...
>Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 15:29:51 -0000
>
>Well, I'm really fucking sorry to have inconvenienced you, 'Dark Swan'
>(woooh!). First off, I wasn't 'begging' for material, I was inviting it.
>Secondly, XFade ain't a "small zine" any more than Rolling Stone is - both
>come from major publishing houses and are distributed through the
>newstrade,
>so what's the difference? Thirdly, what the hell is a "small-ass
>labelhead"?
>If techno were left to the "big-ass" labels, it'd die: the best stuff
>always
>comes from the small labels, full stop. What's more, if techno were left to
>mags like Rolling Stone it'd suffer a similar fate.
>
>So what's the problem?
>
>To the chap who asked if XFade was a new magazine, yes it is - it started
>in
>September. However I incorrectly stated that it was a sister mag to DJ,
>when
>in fact I should have said Future Music.
>
>C-ya,
>TOM
>[no private replies to the above]
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Dark Swan
>To: forestgreenbean@yahoo.com ; list@techno.ca ; 313@hyperreal.org
>Cc: idm@hyperreal.org ; tech-house@techno.ca
>Sent: Saturday, November 20, 1999 3:31 AM
>Subject: Re: (idm) XLR8R Magazine reviews...
>
>
>Oh, this one gets the dipshit award for today. I don't know what's more
>pathetic: a person writing for a small zine in the UK begging for review
>material or a hack living in the biggest music-industry state writing for a
>graphic-ass-beautiful US magazine begging like a gimp for freebees from,
>admit it, the small-ass labelheads watching these lists. Give me a fucking
>break.
>
>Actually, maybe I'm the most pathetic, because I write reviews for Rolling
>Stone and I shouldn't stoop to this crass level.
>
>Go bug Alison at Astralwerks or Susan at Nothing, freakshow, and stop this
>worthless waste of bandwidth.
>
>The Dark Swan
>
>
> >From: forest green <forestgreenbean@yahoo.com>
> >To: list@techno.ca, 313@hyperreal.org
> >CC: idm@hyperreal.org, list@techno.ca, tech-house@techno.ca
> >Subject: (idm) XLR8R Magazine reviews...
> >Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 16:32:26 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >
> >While we are on the subject...
> >
> >ME TOO, ME TOO, ME TOO!!!
> >SEND ME MUSIC FOR REVIEW IN XLR8R!!!
> >
> >I write techno and house reviews for XLR8R, and I am
> >always open to receiving material for review.
> >
> >If anyone would like to send me material for
> >consideration, the address is:
> >Forest Green c/o Eloquent
> >2000 Alameda de las Pulgas, Suite 100
> >San Mateo, CA 94403
> >
> >I too will be happy to provide feedback on records
> >received, whether or not I can include them. You can
> >e-mail me at forestgreenbean@yahoo.com or phone me at
> >415.776.1643, but give me a few days from receipt to
> >check the stuff out.
> >
> >Thanks for the piggy back Tom! =)
> >
> >Love,
> >Forest
> >
> >http://www.technoheaven.com/dj/forestgreen/index.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Tom Robbins <tomr@proweb.co.uk> wrote:
> > > To all techno/electronic labels/promotions:
> > >
> > > Just wanted to make it known that I have been given
> > > the regular job of
> > > providing techno/electronic reviews for XFADE
> > > magazine, the sister
> > > publication to DJ from Future Publishing (Bath,> If
> >anyone would like to send me material for
> > > consideration, the address is:
> > > PO Box 303, Nottingham NG7 2HE, UK
> > >
> > > I will be happy to provide feedback on records
> > > received, whether or not I
> > > can include them. You can email me at
> > > tomr@proweb.co.uk, phone me on +44
> > > (0)115 847 5697 or fax me on +44 (0)115 847 5698,
> > > but give me a few days
> > > from receipt to check the stuff out.
> >
> > > England).
> > >
> > > They want 20 single reviews a month plus album
> > > reviews and occasional
> > > features (Dave 'laughing boy' Clarke this weekend!).
> > > Next deadline is 26th
> > > Nov and, I presume, monthly thereafter.
> > >
> > >
> > > Lots of people have been sending me stuff since
> > > Magic Feet closed (still
> > > planning to restart it at some point), for which I'm
> > > very grateful, but this
> > > has dropped off recently - understandably so, since
> > > we haven't had an issue
> > > out for so long. Anyway, here's a good reason to
> > > send me stuff again!
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > TOM
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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