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From:
Steve Oliver
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Date:
Sat, 13 May 2000 12:08:16 +0100
Subject:
RE: [idm] better Riz than "chick"
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<tongueincheek> I'm currently working on some 'special' jpgs of Bernd Friedmann's head pasted onto Ana Kournikova's body...watch this space. </tongueincheek> Stevie. www.ignition.org.uk www.rewind1000.co.uk
quoted 37 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: Vague Terrain [mailto:mcess@pop.slip.net] > Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 8:00 AM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: [idm] better Riz than "chick" > > > "dude. pointing out that someone referred to as a 'he' is in > actuality is a > she is not misogynistic. > > pointing out that a person is attractive is not misogynistic." > > While I shouldn't speak for others, I have to say that the original post > wasn't arguing that it was misogynist to identify Riz' gender. The word in > question wasn't "woman", it was "chick" and if you can't figure out the > connotative difference, then YOU'RE the "moron" in this picture. And no, > pointing out that a person is attractive isn't *necessarily* misogynistic. > But in a sexist climate in which women's art-making tends to get > referenced > with their looks in ways that men's art-maiking rarely is, to uncritically > perpetuate that association is to make a comment which, if not sexist in > its intention, is nontheless sexist in its effect. How many posts on IDM > have you seen where Bernd Friedmann's fetching cheekbones or Rob Brown's > brooding good looks are the issue? > > later "dude". > > Drew > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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