zimbette wrote:
quoted 2 lines what would make music "better"?
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> what would make music "better"?
I can think of several things:
-Better recording and playback media(geared towards sound quality rather
than economy)
-Say a digital recording standard of 96 bits of resolution and a 192 khz
frequency response.
-different concepts in music generation, a break with cut and paste and
the 12 tone keyboard.
-a general change in music technology, with a move towards greater
performance controls and alternate control surfaces. Buchla had
some good ideas, but he lost out to Bob Moog, it got even worse in the
early 80's with Rolands DCB, and Sequential pushing Midi. There has
to be a better sequencing standard than MIDI.
quoted 3 lines and whats the difference between shit made as a result of cheap computer
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> and whats the difference between shit made as a result of cheap computer
> stuff and shit made as a result of cheap guitars (or any instrument)?
Nothing, it is still shit. Realize that I don't have issues with which
instruments you use, be in guitar or a computer(I have used both.) I
have issues more with the way users work with these tools, and how it
effects the music they make. I think that stuff like Acid make music too
easy, it does all the work for you, and it leads to a sort of technical
laziness. That technical laziness leads to a sort of musical laziness
where you are not really developing interesting ideas or taking the
extra step to push things further. Acid allows a lot of people to buy
some sample cd's and create loop tracks, and call themselves producers.
The problem I have is that it allows people to make music with little
effort, and music that comes with little effort is usually not very
good. I think music should be something you have to work for, suffer a
bit for, it should build a bit of character. The thing about those
difficulties is that it weeds people out, as well as making them
stronger. You don't have to work with a copy of acid, you can just play
around for a little while and come up with passable results. You can
make tracks that are good enough to be released in a disposable music
market. (re: dancefloor techno)
I think that while computers can open up new avenues of creative
expression, for the most part they don't. It all comes down to work, and
effort, if something comes too easy it probably is not worth having.
Easy software appeals to simple minds, and those minds probably are not
going to be doing anything that is that interesting. Good music usually
comes from time and effort, and some people are using software to try
and get around that. The result is a glut of poor music that doesn't
have much character or soul.
quoted 2 lines how does something "wreck" music?
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> how does something "wreck" music?
It is simple, imitators cheapen original innovative ideas. Re: Autechre,
Detroit Techno, Basic Channel...
The other problem is that it allows people to copy and copy and copy
original music. Try getting a distro deal with an unknown label right
now, good luck. the reason is that there is such a glut of mediocre
releases out there that are flooding the market. there are mountains of
vinyl coming out each week and how much of it is actually good or will
stand up to the test of time?(not very much) Cheap music technology is
responsible for this, anyone can poop out a record right now.
It is more of a problem with underground electronic music because you
make a similar copy to something innovative. The copiers play the idea
out, and it gets tired. I like Autechre, but when I want to hear
Autechre I will listen to Autechre, not to some weedy rip off artist.
Perhaps I am idealistic about electronic music, I think of third hand
ideas as being the province of rock. I believe that if you aspire to
have releases you should wait until you have something to say and you
can say it in your own voice.
Perhaps it isn't the computers, but just bad people in general, I just
think you should have more respect for music.
music should be something special, that you share with other people
because you have something to say. If the only thing you have to say
came from someone else's mouth, you should keep your mouth shut. People
will remember ______, they wont remember your half-assed attempts to
sound like ______, so don't waste our time. I might be nuts, I think
that 70 percent of what is being released is unnecessary. Who needs
another hard tribal, an Ep7 track, a Tri Repatae track or Oval ambient
glitch track? That base has been covered, move on. If you want to do it
for fun in your bedroom, that's cool, just don't release it. Let the
forward thinking records have more room to breath on the store shelves.
mt
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