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d0ktor
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IDM
Date:
Thu, 12 Aug 1999 21:47:41 +0100
Subject:
Re: (idm) samplers are evil, aren't they?
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I can't say I ever made any masterpieces, but when I did my elecronic music module at college we had little else other than samplers. So I brought crates of glass objects, building supplies, cardboard boxes and elestic bands and old musical instruments in, sampled them, timestretched them, layered on the effects and re-sampled them. I also borrowed a DAT machine and carried it around with me, recording any interesting sounds I heard as I went from place to place. Fuck it, I say, who needs anything other than samplers? Lack of original and interesting sounds was never my problem - I'm just not much of a musician and I found that putting them together into a interesting tune was the real challenge. d0ktor -----Original Message----- From: Tom Millar <tmillar@utkux.utcc.utk.edu> To: BigKumquat@aol.com <BigKumquat@aol.com> Cc: idm@hyperreal.org <idm@hyperreal.org> Date: Thursday, August 12, 1999 8:38 PM Subject: Re: (idm) samplers are evil, aren't they?
quoted 2 lines Hey, this would be great because it would provide further support for the> >> Hey, this would be great because it would provide further support for the
ongoing argument that SAMPLERS ARE EVIL and that the world would be a better place without them.
quoted 4 lines Dr. Purist: Arrgh! The Kumquat has again uncovered my secret plans! Curses!> >Dr. Purist: Arrgh! The Kumquat has again uncovered my secret plans! Curses! > >> After all, we all know that HOW a piece of music is made is more
important than the actual sound of the music itself.
quoted 2 lines The Kumquat's fists on Dr. Purist's ideological foundation: THUD, POW,> >The Kumquat's fists on Dr. Purist's ideological foundation: THUD, POW,
SMACK
quoted 2 lines For example, before even listening to a piece of music, it is best to> >> For example, before even listening to a piece of music, it is best to
verify that:
quoted 2 lines - no samplers were used, or were even present in the room during>> >> - no samplers were used, or were even present in the room during
recording
quoted 4 lines More of the same: BIFF, WHACK> >More of the same: BIFF, WHACK > >> - no DSP plug-ins were employed, since it is "too easy" to make
cool-sounding effects with them
quoted 4 lines Dr. Purist: Never said anything about that, not me, wait, Ow!> >Dr. Purist: Never said anything about that, not me, wait, Ow! > >> In fact, any device that makes it easier (god forbid) for Joe RaveKid to
make cool tracks on his own (without racks of equipment and years of practice tweaking oscillators and filters) should be banned.
quoted 9 lines Well, there is the whole idea that you should challenge yourself when> >Well, there is the whole idea that you should challenge yourself when >creating art. >And it's pretty easy to detect when someone is not challenging >themselves. We call it "wanking." >You can wank with any piece of equipment. But remixing or covering tunes >without the use of any sampling methods is a challenge which should >hopefully cause the folks involved to get creative in new and >interesting ways, regardless of my personal artistic fear of the damn
things.
quoted 6 lines Hi, Tom!> >> Hi, Tom! >Hi, Fred! > >Tom >