Better late than never:
Echophoria@aol.com wrote:
quoted 9 lines there's very little "true" 3/4 outside of Classical music.>
>there's very little "true" 3/4 outside of Classical music.
>most of the 3/4/waltz-time that you hear in pop or dance is really 6/12.
>if you listen, the phrasing isn't classic waltz (ONE-two-three;
>ONE-two-three).
>it's more like:
>ONE-two-three-four-five-six-SEVEN-eight-nine-ten-eleven-twelve.
>
>there's a big difference.
You may be right about the difference in phrasing and feel, but the idea of
calling something "true" 3/4 based upon its rythm or feel is inaccurate.
Time signature (of which 3/4 is an example) has no more definite connection
to the phrasing of a piece than it does other aspects (tempo for example).
As a result any piece regardless of rythm or phrasing can be notated in any
time signature.
Granted, you don't expect something like a Cocteau Twins waltz (to borrow
an example below) to be notated in 23/8, but it could be, and it would
sound exactly the same as if it was notated in a more conventional 3/4 or
6/8 time signature.
quoted 2 lines even the few waltzy pieces that surface (like some early Cocteau Twins>even the few waltzy pieces that surface (like some early Cocteau Twins
>numbers or Chapterhouse's "Then We'll Rise") are really in 6/12.
6/12 would mean that there are 6 beats per measure, with the 12th note
getting the beat. Why not make it 6/8 and have the familiar 8th note
getting the beat? I'm not sure I've ever seen a 12th note. =)
Of course you can tell if a piece is generally in '3' or '4' by listening
to it. But you really can't distinguish between 3/4, 6/8, or yes even
something like 6/12, unless you look at the sheet music, nor is there any
need to unless you're trying to read said sheet music.
Cheers, Brad