At 11:00 PM 4/17/0, Daniel Laburu wrote:
quoted 7 lines i think that the "detached" feeling you guys are talking about has a lot>i think that the "detached" feeling you guys are talking about has a lot
>to do w/ >the fact that its instrumental music....i have a freind who
>says, put something >on...w/ words though...it made me think about how
>music w/ words can >perhaps allow you to identify w/ the music better,
>because humans do, in fact, >communicate w/ words...where as instrumental
>music allows one to wonder >freely and think whatever comes to mind..more
>personal or less? ....agree, >disagree? lets talk.
i agree AND disagree.
while certain vocal music can help the listener to identify with the
singer- or to the experience the singer is relating- depending on the
nature of the experience itself, LISTENING can be alienating! i suppose
that is introducing another variable into the equation (the subject matter
of the lyrics), but i think we can all agree on how diverse topics of vocal
music can be.
ANYWAY, yes, we can identify with vocal music because of a voice, but the
voice is an instrument as much as a saxophone is- it's just attaching words
to emotion... and, with instrumental music- like you said- one can "wonder
freely" and attach his/her own meanings to certain passages depending on
their cadence, intensity, key, etc. when you know a human is behind
whatever instrument is used to make those statements, you can relate easier
(possibly... this is the argument!).
my friend says that computers take away the human aspect. yes, there can be
someone there turning the knobs and pushing the squares (haha) but in
actuality, you can load up a sample and just have the computer fuck it up
with plug-ins and whatever else until it's so beyond the point of being in
a state that sounds "human." i think with some of the more hyper-processed
IDM, this is exactly what happens, and possibly why the detachment occurs.
shit, i don't know. there were jazz musicians who initially objected to
the use of amplifiers! i think that since then, technology just sped up so
quickly that it's not so much musicians behind electronic instruments, but
the potential for electronics to be in front of them!
zachary
zim200@is7.nyu.edu
by the way, np: tortoise "TNT"
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