I think [ACTUAL REAL AND TRUE AND INARGUABLE FACT].
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com>
wrote:
quoted 156 lines I think [OPINION].
> I think [OPINION].
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:33 AM, David Bohan <madvlad00@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What's wrong with you all? This track is proper ace.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Back in the Protracker days, i once recorded the Amiga channels onto
>>> cassette and resampled the track this way.
>>>
>>> Quite blurry, RAM-hog (4 bars) and slightly unsync'ed.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> heh in the .mod days ppl would use mod2wav to make patterns from their
>>>> .mod files into wav files, the idea being that since you only had 4 tracks
>>>> if you could write a 4 track beat and mix it down to 1 wav file you could
>>>> free up 3 channels
>>>> </mod-nerd>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Clint Anderson
>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Eric Fairbanks <
>>>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Oh man, those stutter-rolls. That's friggin' impressive. They sound so
>>>>> smooth, and the volume envelopes are perfect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Must've taken a hellovalot of time. :P
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:05 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This track was made entirely in Sound Forge
>>>>>> http://www.cornwarning.com/chaircrusher/SoFarSoSo/02%20Morton%27s%20Shadow.mp3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was from this album
>>>>>> http://music.cornwarning.com/2009/01/31/so-far-so-so-retrospective-1995-2005/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:02 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Before Acid Pro, I did a whole bunch of tracks in Sound Forge. I'd
>>>>>>> figure out the number of samples in a 4-beat measures, create that much
>>>>>>> silence, and turn on the selection grid in Sound Forge so I could see where
>>>>>>> the beats were, and paste/mix samples in. Once I had some basic patterns
>>>>>>> and sounds, I'd make copies and fuck them up, and string them out and
>>>>>>> paste-mix other loops into the master mix.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm really comfortable working directly with waveforms. It's a lot
>>>>>>> easier these days with other tools, but I liked that method better than the
>>>>>>> other options of the time, which were trackers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Though I did do trackers to generate loops that I'd arrange in Acid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:16 PM Eric Fairbanks <
>>>>>>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ah man, Acid Pro. That's exactly what I was picturing. I've heard
>>>>>>>> of musicians who work like that, but it sounds like a nightmare. Might as
>>>>>>>> well compose music in a video editor at that point IMO.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:09 PM kent williams <
>>>>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I did it kind of as a dare for myself. I was working in Acid Pro,
>>>>>>>>> and I cut the break into chunks, and then looped a bar or two bars, and
>>>>>>>>> copy/paste bits into the loop until it feels full. Then move on to the
>>>>>>>>> next measure.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It wasn't hard, but it made me hate those particular sounds by the
>>>>>>>>> time I was done.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:44 PM Eric Fairbanks <
>>>>>>>>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kent, that's nuts. I can't imagine working with sampled breaks in
>>>>>>>>>> an audio editor. (well, I suppose I can, but it sounds like a serious
>>>>>>>>>> headache) My recent jam has been writing LUA scripts that
>>>>>>>>>> generate/transform patterns in Renoise that re-arrange cut up breakbeats.
>>>>>>>>>> Editing and manipulating breaks and sequences in a tracker at 180+ BPM
>>>>>>>>>> 8/16LPB is work enough. Cutting up breaks in an audio editor represents a
>>>>>>>>>> level of long-term focus and dedication that I'm unfamiliar with.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Totally hypothetical, but if Jenkinson handed me a spec for some
>>>>>>>>>> beatmangling software, I'd happily implement it in return for some spastic
>>>>>>>>>> Squarepusher-brand breakcore. >.>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:24 PM kent williams <
>>>>>>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure I'd call it piss-weak. Not sure if I like it yet,
>>>>>>>>>>> but I enjoy the melodic content. It sounds like he's using the Eventide
>>>>>>>>>>> effects rack as a synthesizer again -- that buzzy foreground sound, which
>>>>>>>>>>> comes from playing bass through it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Closest contemporary comparison is the PC Music stuff, which is
>>>>>>>>>>> manically shiny in a similar way.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You can't fault him for trying to do something that sounds
>>>>>>>>>>> different.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As regards the Amen break, I did a track years ago that involved
>>>>>>>>>>> loading the Amen break as a sample, and then cutting and arranging it so
>>>>>>>>>>> every bar was different, across 5 minutes. As you can imagine this amounted
>>>>>>>>>>> to about 8 hours of painstaking zoomed-in editing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ever since doing that, I'm allergic to the Amen. I don't mind if
>>>>>>>>>>> people use it in their tracks, but if I load it a sampler and start messing
>>>>>>>>>>> with it, I start feeling sad and wishing it would go away.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:21 AM CRAIG SIMPSON <
>>>>>>>>>>> craignorms@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is pis* weak. Hes making music that sounds like its all
>>>>>>>>>>>> been sampled from an arcade or funfair. Hes given up on the amen break.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's a tragedy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:06:04 -0700
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: idm@hyperreal.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Fwd: Re: Jlin album out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --Forwarded Message Attachment--
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:58:47 -0700
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: 313@hyperreal.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Jlin album out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've had to review a 12" or two for the radio station where I DJ, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've never heard anything that appealed to me in the least.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> kent williams wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> > I'm surprised footwork/juke hasn't been a bigger thing on the IDM
>>>>>>>>>>>> > list. This new record on Planet Mu is revelatory.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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