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From:
Che
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Intelligent Dumb Music
Date:
Sun, 1 Nov 1998 14:05:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject:
Re: (idm) Plaid - "Not For Threes"
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At 08:20 PM 10/31/98 GMT, Mark Stevens wrote:
quoted 3 lines Heh, I seem to remember when it was first released (almost a year>Heh, I seem to remember when it was first released (almost a year >ago), many people on this list slated it because it <shock!> had a few >vocal tracks and acoustic instruments in the mix.
Actually, the main reason I panned it was because it's weak. Repeated listenings have only made this painfully clear - it's not getting better w/ age. I stand by my original evaluation - emotionless techno-by-numbers. I regret that I didn't sell my copy before the Nothing version was announced.
quoted 6 lines If you're not as short-sighted as those folk, then 'Not For Threes' is>If you're not as short-sighted as those folk, then 'Not For Threes' is >a gorgeous album. If it accomplishes anything, it proves that Andy and >Ed were pretty much responsible for 80% of the classic Black Dog style >and sound. But having said that, don't expect 'Not For Threes' to be a >follow-up to 'Spanners'. Whilst there are similarities, it's the >differences that are much more interesting.
If it accomplishes anything, it proves that Warp fucked up bigtime in dropping Black Dog. In 5 years, we'll still be talking about "Music For Adverts", while "Not For Threes" will be an album that you have trouble giving away. Someday soon I hope to give a track by track rundown on who did what Black Dog tracks. While trying to identify the Live Tape tracks I released I have a pretty good grip on their individual styles. I think your 80% figure is WAY OFF. Based on a preliminary analysis, I would say somewhere between 60-70%, which is what you'd expect for 2/3 of a group that doesn't really collaborate (I'd love to know how true this is - I occasionally hear elements of both styles, like on Olivine, and wonder if Ed & Ken did work together, or whether they just influenced each other. If they didn't work together at all, it seems a little weird, but based on my own experiences w/ electronic music collaborations & "creative types" it would not surprise me).
quoted 2 lines Having lived with it for about 10 months, it does look a little bit>Having lived with it for about 10 months, it does look a little bit >average now.
"A little bit average"??? Try letting go of your emotional attachment to Ed & Andy and be honest - it's below average, and way below what they're capable of.
quoted 1 line Worth getting? Definitely.>Worth getting? Definitely.
...if you buy it used, and it shows up a lot on people's FS/FT lists, so you won't have to wait long.
quoted 2 lines But you may want to track down the>But you may want to track down the >'Undoneson' EP (Warp),
...if you like paying $10 for 1 track you have & 2 below average tracks you don't have (note: at least US fans now get these tracks as a bonus on the Nothing release)
quoted 5 lines the 'Android' EP (Clear), the Reflections remix> the 'Android' EP (Clear), the Reflections remix >12-inch (Clear) and the new Kushti LP (Octopus) to hear Plaid at their >best. It's also worth getting hold of Leila's 'Feeling' EP -- the >title track has been remixed at Plaid's studio. So much so that that >it practically *is* Plaid.
Finally, you're starting to sound sensible. Don't forget the Studio Pressure remix, the Bjork remixes, and the dozens of other Plaid remixes that are way better than anything on Not For Threes.
quoted 1 line New Plaid album out on Warp early in the new year.>New Plaid album out on Warp early in the new year.
Let's hope they snap out of it & deliver this time. Che