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From:
Clint Anderson
To:
Esa Ruoho
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CRAIG SIMPSON , Eric Fairbanks , Dan S , idm list
Date:
Tue, 24 Mar 2015 13:26:08 -0500
Subject:
Re: New Squarepusher track
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i dunno i havent MINDED most of his stuff since do you know, ultravisitor in particular is great but then hello everything, souvenir, modern bass, etc, im not going to call crap but they just ... whatever chaotic naughty arrogant narcissistic spark was in the first few albums and EPs just seemed to not be there, i think that esa is onto something there Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 130 lines Just scrollin' back, 2012 Ufabulum 2010 Shobaleader one, 2008 Just A> Just scrollin' back, 2012 Ufabulum 2010 Shobaleader one, 2008 Just A > Souvenir 2006 Hello Everything 2004 Ultravisitor 2002 Do You Know > Squarepusher.. should someone force him to wait 3-4 years between albums or > wot > > > On 24 March 2015 at 17:47, CRAIG SIMPSON <craignorms@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> I completely agree, undercooked is a great word for how I feel about his >> output at the moment. It seems very basic(on the surface,) and somewhat >> timid. Ufabulum live is so much better because he adds more complexity to >> the tracks. The album on its own doesn't match up and I'd imagine that's >> how it will be with damogen furies. >> >> ------------------------------ >> From: eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com >> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 15:12:12 +0000 >> Subject: Re: New Squarepusher track >> To: danstowell+idm@gmail.com; idm@hyperreal.org >> >> >> For whatever reason, Jenkinson seems to be moving his percussive elements >> out of the spotlight in his recordings. I've noticed fewer layers where his >> drums are concerned. They've been noticeably cleaner, the samples less >> varied, and the glitch FX less present. >> >> When I first heard Ufabulum, I was a bit disappointed. The compositions >> sounded almost like what I wanted/expected, but there was something missing. >> >> Then I saw Squarepusher perform that album live, and everything came >> together. It was the perfect cavalcade of glitched-out, blissful craziness >> that I expected. What was different? What did he add to the equation that >> was missing on the album itself? >> >> Turns out, it was Jenkinson, sweeping filters, retriggering samples, >> crushing bits, and just generally fucking shit up. (in a good way) What is >> missing, I think, from his recent tracks, is this element of live-ness. To >> quote Wikipedia quoting him discussing Ufabulum: >> >> *"It's music which is generated purely from programming...there's nothing >> in it which is live, really at all."* >> >> Perhaps the Daft-Punk-looking welding helmet was an omen. In the same way >> that I find their music most palatable on albums like "Alive," perhaps >> Jenkinson's recent work is designed to be performed. Until there's Tom >> smashing away on his FSU programs, disassembling and reassembling the music >> according to his whims, it's slightly undercooked. >> >> This weird, floppy, slightly moist IDM pizza is okay; certainly >> enjoyable, but I miss the old, crispy, thin crust version. >> >> Or maybe drill 'n' bass is just dead. Who knows? >> >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 9:45 AM Dan S <danstowell+idm@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> lovely bit of europop imho >> >> 2015-03-24 13:35 GMT+00:00 CRAIG SIMPSON <craignorms@hotmail.com>: >> > you honestly think thats up to his standards? he's making music that >> > compliments his pyrotechnic liveshows in the same way movies have >> explosions >> > that compliment the 3d. Its fine in that context but for me he has been >> on a >> > rapid decline since ultravisior. >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: alucas@gmail.com >> > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 09:21:08 -0400 >> > Subject: Re: New Squarepusher track >> > To: c.byersbrown@gmail.com >> > CC: craignorms@hotmail.com; idm@hyperreal.org >> > >> > >> > I'm guessing he means this one: >> > >> > https://soundcloud.com/warp-records/squarepusher-stor-eiglass >> > >> > I quite like it. >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Charles Byers-Brown >> > <c.byersbrown@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Link? >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:21 PM, CRAIG SIMPSON <craignorms@hotmail.com >> > >> > wrote: >> > >> > This is pis* weak. Hes making music that sounds like its all been >> sampled >> > from an arcade or funfair. Hes given up on the amen break. It's a >> tragedy. >> > >> > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:06:04 -0700 >> > From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net >> > To: idm@hyperreal.org >> > Subject: Fwd: Re: Jlin album out. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --Forwarded Message Attachment-- >> > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:58:47 -0700 >> > From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net >> > To: 313@hyperreal.org >> > Subject: Re: Jlin album out. >> > >> > I've had to review a 12" or two for the radio station where I DJ, and >> > I've never heard anything that appealed to me in the least. >> > >> > kent williams wrote: >> >> I'm surprised footwork/juke hasn't been a bigger thing on the IDM >> >> list. This new record on Planet Mu is revelatory. >> >> >> >> http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > > -- > > --- > http://twitter.com/esaruoho > http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >