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From:
Clint Anderson
To:
Connor Higgins
Cc:
kent williams , David Bohan , Jared Dunne , do id
Date:
Tue, 24 Mar 2015 11:16:42 -0500
Subject:
Re: Jlin album out.
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what about post-uk-swampcore-terror-step? Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 99 lines Well said Kent.> Well said Kent. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon%27s_law > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 11:38 AM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Every genre defines conventions. Every genre, furthermore demands a >> different sort of listening if you're going to understand and enjoy it. To >> say "The genre that sounds like some kid forgot to add a snare to his >> half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental" is to dismiss a whole musical >> culture based on a very shallow listening experience, and no understanding >> of the culture in which it grew up. >> >> Juke/Footwork music is very much the product of kids with cracked copies >> of Fruity Loops; they work with the tools they have. The motivation was to >> make music whose purpose is to accompany footwork dancing, which is >> competetive, athletic and intense. The idea is to have the freshest, >> trickiest rhythm, often played back on shitty boomboxes or Frankenstein >> sound systems.. Footwork, like Jit in Detroit, is both dance and stylized >> warfare; it sublimates the violence and frustration of life in "Chiraq." >> It is something positive in an environment where people are confronted >> daily with unrelenting negative things. >> >> There's a billion footwork tracks and thousands of people making it. >> Inevitably most of it is not very good, but like any other genre, when it's >> good it's great. >> >> It's OK not to like musical styles. I bet you're not so hot on bluegrass >> music as well. But like my grandmother always told me about cream corn, >> "it's better to say you don't care for it than say you hate it." >> >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:26 PM David Bohan <madvlad00@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Kent, >>> >>> Why does Jared have to be ignorant to not like Footwork? It seems like >>> Jared just thinks this kind of music does not require much effort or much >>> of it is the same. >>> >>> I listened to the compilation album "Bangs & Works Vol. 1" and have >>> found his sentiment to be true for most of the tracks on that release, with >>> some exceptions of course. >>> >>> Now Jlin's release here is much more experimental and fresh sounding >>> than the long tracks of TV show themes spread out over lazy beats. >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Ignorant or silly? Either way, I can't help myself, Kent! Honestly, >>>> Jlin's stuff isn't that bad. But for some reason it all sounds a bit >>>> unfinished to me. But if peeps want to call it minimal, so be it! >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:18 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jared, stop being ignorant. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:04 AM Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ah yes, Footwork. The genre that sounds like some kid forgot to add >>>>>> a snare to his half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental. Yay world! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:51 AM, David Bohan <madvlad00@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I haven't heard of "Footwork"... is this a new genre of music or >>>>>>> something? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The tracks you linked to sound interesting to say the least. Find it >>>>>>> also curious that Jlin works at a steel mill in Gary, Indiana... Not much >>>>>>> music prides itself on coming from Indiana >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:29 AM, kent williams < >>>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm surprised footwork/juke hasn't been a bigger thing on the IDM >>>>>>>> list. This new record on Planet Mu is revelatory. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> 22tape/jared dunne >>>>>> listen <http://22tape.com> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> 22tape/jared dunne >>>> listen <http://22tape.com> >>>> >>> >>> >