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From:
kent williams
To:
David Bohan , Jared Dunne
Cc:
do id
Date:
Tue, 24 Mar 2015 15:38:23 +0000
Subject:
Re: Jlin album out.
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Every genre defines conventions. Every genre, furthermore demands a different sort of listening if you're going to understand and enjoy it. To say "The genre that sounds like some kid forgot to add a snare to his half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental" is to dismiss a whole musical culture based on a very shallow listening experience, and no understanding of the culture in which it grew up. Juke/Footwork music is very much the product of kids with cracked copies of Fruity Loops; they work with the tools they have. The motivation was to make music whose purpose is to accompany footwork dancing, which is competetive, athletic and intense. The idea is to have the freshest, trickiest rhythm, often played back on shitty boomboxes or Frankenstein sound systems.. Footwork, like Jit in Detroit, is both dance and stylized warfare; it sublimates the violence and frustration of life in "Chiraq." It is something positive in an environment where people are confronted daily with unrelenting negative things. There's a billion footwork tracks and thousands of people making it. Inevitably most of it is not very good, but like any other genre, when it's good it's great. It's OK not to like musical styles. I bet you're not so hot on bluegrass music as well. But like my grandmother always told me about cream corn, "it's better to say you don't care for it than say you hate it." On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:26 PM David Bohan <madvlad00@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 65 lines Kent,> Kent, > > Why does Jared have to be ignorant to not like Footwork? It seems like > Jared just thinks this kind of music does not require much effort or much > of it is the same. > > I listened to the compilation album "Bangs & Works Vol. 1" and have found > his sentiment to be true for most of the tracks on that release, with some > exceptions of course. > > Now Jlin's release here is much more experimental and fresh sounding than > the long tracks of TV show themes spread out over lazy beats. > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ignorant or silly? Either way, I can't help myself, Kent! Honestly, >> Jlin's stuff isn't that bad. But for some reason it all sounds a bit >> unfinished to me. But if peeps want to call it minimal, so be it! >> >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:18 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Jared, stop being ignorant. >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:04 AM Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Ah yes, Footwork. The genre that sounds like some kid forgot to add a >>>> snare to his half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental. Yay world! >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:51 AM, David Bohan <madvlad00@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I haven't heard of "Footwork"... is this a new genre of music or >>>>> something? >>>>> >>>>> The tracks you linked to sound interesting to say the least. Find it >>>>> also curious that Jlin works at a steel mill in Gary, Indiana... Not much >>>>> music prides itself on coming from Indiana >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:29 AM, kent williams < >>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm surprised footwork/juke hasn't been a bigger thing on the IDM >>>>>> list. This new record on Planet Mu is revelatory. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> 22tape/jared dunne >>>> listen <http://22tape.com> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> 22tape/jared dunne >> listen <http://22tape.com> >> > >