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From:
Simon Paul
To:
Andregurov
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Date:
Thu, 02 Apr 1998 10:59:27 -0800
Subject:
Re: (idm) 76:14 and 'difficult' music
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Andregurov wrote:
quoted 2 lines I have to agree with what you have discovered of "difficult" music. Orbus> I have to agree with what you have discovered of "difficult" music. Orbus > Terrarum took me literally dozens of listens to grasp its beauty.
That's strange , when I first heard this album I thought it was(and still is) the best thing the orb has ever done album-wise.I didn't find it difficult listening at all. I've always disliked the "little fluffy clouds" aspect of the Orb and like thier mutant dub stuff more. Their fave track for me is the remix of Home by PWEI(which sounds nothing like the original) it's an excellent track.
quoted 3 lines I find that> I find that > this is the case with most of the albums I list as "classics" of the > genre/style/idmish stuff.
Classics I usually think of I like right away and can stand listening to over a couple years at least and constantly find something new in it. If I find something hard to listen to repeatedly I usually toss it.(ie: SAW2) It's not so much being caught up with "ear candy" on the first listen but it generally has to grab me whether it's "pop" or "noise". The only album that stands out for me as difficlut that got better or suddenly clicked one day is CabVoltaires "groovy laidback and Nasty" only because at the time I wasn't into upbeat stuff. But a couple of years later it suddenly clicked.
quoted 3 lines My first experience with Air Liquide made me believe it was crap filler. But> My first experience with Air Liquide made me believe it was crap filler. But > after repeated listens, I could detect the shifting rhythms and sounds. Now > all of their albums are the closest to my heart.
I liked Black but not Red(the only ones I've heard!) I was quite surprised by it.
quoted 4 lines Anyway, the point of my> Anyway, the point of my > letter - perhaps there are no bad albums, just albums that haven't been > listened to enough to discover their secret pleasures (or have been listened > to way too much).
yes there are bad albums!and lots of them ;-P
quoted 3 lines My experience with jazz is this same way. "A Love Supreme"> My experience with jazz is this same way. "A Love Supreme" > took me many cracks at it before it opened its garden of delights to my ears, > head, and heart.
I could never get into jazz BUT all the music I listen to now has jazz elements incorporated into it,go figure. I've just never been a *purist* as far as music goes, I like when bands incorporate different styles. I usually try to enjoy the roots of any particular style but usually I end up enjoying the next generations more for some reason.
quoted 4 lines Or maybe its all about personal taste.> > > Or maybe its all about personal taste. >
I think so. music discussion end up being pretty circular and unresolvable due to the fact everyone has different tastes, and usually don't know why something "clicks" with them. spaul