Thank you so much Brian :)
2015-02-27 0:46 GMT-05:00 Sham Beam <sham.beam@gmail.com>:
quoted 84 lines I typically feel it was just someone taking the piss out of genre
> > I typically feel it was just someone taking the piss out of genre
> > titles...
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> +1. ..and wasn't it also a slightly derogatory way to describe that music
> as well?
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> On 2/27/2015 2:44 PM, c j wrote:
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>> So I guess that is to say...I know of the when the term was first
>> applied, and to whom...but I don't actually know the answer to your
>> question :|
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>> I typically feel it was just someone taking the piss out of genre
>> titles...
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>> ...but given that a lot of drill n' bass artists had backgrounds in
>> jungle, and jungle became drum n' bass, I can see these weird techno
>> proto-junglists evolving their own music into it's own drum n' bass
>> derivative, "drill n' bass". I can only neckbeardedly speculate and
>> propose that drills are oft associated not just for their annoying
>> sound, but their propensity and function to "wind up", much in the way
>> intense beat repeating and programming does in drill n' bass. Well, my
>> mind makes that fundamental connection...but would I have called it
>> drill n' bass at the time? Had I been one of the purveyors? I don't
>> think so, so I can't say where the "drill" part really comes from.
>>
>> "23 laughing foxes serenading lobsters" - cody
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>> From: coda27@hotmail.com
>> To: idm@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: RE: IDM List archives
>> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 20:29:46 -0700
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>> common knowledge (?), but Plug's Drum and Bass for Papa EP is typically
>> considered the first "drill n' bass" album. As to whether or not the
>> term originated around this time/coincided specifically with this
>> release, or was applied at a later date to that album and subsequent
>> artists, I do not know.
>>
>> "23 laughing foxes serenading lobsters" - cody
>>
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>> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 19:55:28 -0500
>> Subject: IDM List archives
>> From: anthony.papavassiliou@gmail.com
>> To: idm@hyperreal.org
>>
>> Hello list,
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>> I'm trying to access to old IDM List archives on
>> http://web.archive.org/, but only some of the topics will open.
>>
>> Do you know where we can browse the entire archives ? If its not done
>> yet, I really think that having a dump somewhere would be great for
>> science :)
>> As an example, I'm trying to find when the first(s) occurence(s) of
>> drill and drill'n'bass appeared.
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>> I can reach a 1997 topic by Styrolene VaT
>> http://web.archive.org/web/20071118222100/http://elists.
>> resynthesize.com/idm/1997/01/442429/
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>> But i can not read most of the post that could contain some uses of the
>> word or expression before or after this date.
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>> I also found topics with the names "anti-drills" and "drills", later in
>> 1997, but could not read what is inside :(
>>
>> Also, if you have any other information/source from inside or outside
>> the IDM List about the word "drill" from the drill'n'bass, feel free to
>> message me :)
>>
>> A. Papavassiliou
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