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From:
Ashok Divakaran
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Thu, 22 Jan 1998 21:10:36 +0000 (GMT)
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Re: (idm) Sigh (kids today)
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quoted 9 lines And no, it didn't come out of nowhere. This gets mentioned over and over> And no, it didn't come out of nowhere. This gets mentioned over and over > again on this list, but Kraftwerk was merely continuing on a path already > well-trodden by Stockhausen, Satie and other classical pioneers, and was > part of a large movement which also included Tangerine Dream, Can, Van Der > Graaf Generator, and a bunch of other wonky stuff you sometimes find in > used bins in the better hippie stores. It was only in the early 80's that > Kraftwerk looked around them, and discovered that young black kids in the > ghetto (horrors!) had become their true offspring, and incorporated these > kids' bastardizations into their own music. Hence, Tour De France.
Harsh! I don't think TdF is staggeringly different from the other stuff that KW was doing a few years earlier and I don't really hear the bastardizations you speak of. It's been said (forgot where) that KW were the grandaddies of *techno* and that Klaus Schulze was that of trance. I think the distinction is a bit sticky, but it's certainly fair to say that there wasn't anything that *sounded* even remotely like techno before KW came on the scene with their mid-70s records. The similarities with Stockhausen et al. (which are questionable to start with; the fact that KW were inspired by Stocky does not really mean that they shared the same aesthetic) end at best at the conceptual level. Ashok
quoted 6 lines Home is where the stereo is!> > Home is where the stereo is! > > [ p h i l i p e v a n s g r a p h i c d e s i g n ] > a c i d d r o p @ e a r t h l i n k . n e t > v 2 1 3 9 6 2 1 9 5 8 f 2 1 3 4 6 9 1 6 3 9