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From:
drew mcdowall
To:
Mark Kolmar
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Date:
Fri, 17 Oct 1997 14:13:42 +0100
Subject:
(idm) Re:music business greed (was coldcut on...)
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i know we might be thought off-topic a bit but Mark makes interesting points that are relevant to IDM'rs who uses samples and/or anyone who exchanges mixtapes,home burned CDR's etc.
quoted 5 lines The music industry has a greed of a different kind than any other industry>The music industry has a greed of a different kind than any other industry >I can think of off the top of my head. Everything from killing DAT as a >consumer format, to the buffalo-bagel SCMS, to the various proposals of >"watermarked" audio for purposes of copy-protection (from the idea of a >sharp "inaudible" notch filter to e_mod's Liquid Audio format).
if the music industry hadn't conspired to bury DAT as a consumer format we would be able to buy machines for under £200 and portable DAT's for under £100.the horrible short sightedness of it is that it did nothing to stem the flow of piracy anyway. and this whole idea of embedding watermarks in audio is horrible,although i think that if you were to sample such a piece of that "protected" audio and were then to treat it with effects and filters etc. the watermark would be unrecoverable...until the industry finds a way to stop you doing that.
quoted 3 lines What these people don't realize is the last time I gave someone a mix tape,he>What these people don't realize is the last time I gave someone a mix tape,he >promptly went out to buy about 4 CDs by bands he would not otherwise have >>known.
that's it exactly.anyone with any sense who makes music doesn't mind that sort of thing,or people taping gigs.most people would rather their music was heard on a tape made by friends than not at all,and the people who buy live bootlegs already have the "legitimate" releases anyway,so no sales are lost. btw i thought that john cage quote summed it up nicely.where is it from? -drew np:mouse on mars-instrumentals(john balance played it to me yesterday and i had to get it)