quoted 5 lines On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Anthony Ewers wrote:>On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Anthony Ewers wrote:
>
>]Consider this, Electronic instruments encourage music which is ultimately
>]guided by numbers and specifications whereas those who play acoustic
>]instrumnts play music guided by the mind & soul.
Wed, 1 Oct 1997 wrecktangle <nworth1@gl.umbc.edu> Wrote:-
quoted 6 lines A more blatantly-put untruth I have never witnessed. I can't begin to>A more blatantly-put untruth I have never witnessed. I can't begin to
>tell you the number of times I've sat down at my computer, started on a
>song, and just let whatever comes out take shape through random
>experimentation. Those who genuinely enjoy the composition process could
>never and would never be encouraged to abandon the "soul" you think you
>understand so well, regardless of the medium.
I've no doubt that you sit down at your computer and go with the creative
flow of things, as do I and a lot of others. I do enjoy what I do (wouldn't
have done it for 11 years if I didn't) and I think most people who do music
also do. Who said anything about abandoning soul???? maybe the voice in
your head did but I certianly didn't. If you want to go beyond the
*defined* parameters of an electronic instrument, you are stuck - FACT - no
two ways about it amigo, however much your mind or soul wishes to go beyond
these perameters is negated. Have you never found limitations in your gear!
And consider this: Which
quoted 3 lines arena, acoustic or electronic, has repeated itself more in the last ten>arena, acoustic or electronic, has repeated itself more in the last ten
>years? Which one will likely be sporting the same pretty-boy, angsty,
>television-whore types in the ten years to come?
If you read my message properly you would know that I never pitted acoustic
music vs electronic music! The title was supposed to convey irony (thus the
'?') but then I suppose thats too much for you to pick up on... I was
trying to show that electronic instruments have limitations, both physical
& in software, rather than just the physical limitations of acoustic
instruments Check your digests, you'll see that in 1279
<graham@lwtcdi.prestel.co.uk> in a post titled 'You have been found
'wanting'...' suggested otherwise. Thererfore I don't see what
arena/genre's repeating themselves has to do with this argument - all
genres do, and I think you'll find that there is no exclusively electronic
or acoustic arena/genre anyway...
quoted 7 lines ]For me anyway I will always feel a more natural intuition or sense of>]For me anyway I will always feel a more natural intuition or sense of
>]creativity with an acoustic instrument, than with a piece of mass produced
>]electronic 'gear', serial numbers, product numbers, barcodes an' all.
>
>then it is your own outdated view of creativity which is holding you back,
>not some imagined anti-creativity force present in all of the _evil_
>_machines_.
Creativity can never be outdated - by definition creativity is part of
spontaneous action. I own synths/samplers too, I never suggested they were
anti-creative or evil, just that they have limitaions, I feel they operate
in a different sphere of creativity. Don't try to read between my lines
theres just a white space - actually read the words...
quoted 7 lines ]haven't yet bought the sales pitch that you exclusively need the latest>]haven't yet bought the sales pitch that you exclusively need the latest
>]hi-tech gear, or the gear that a particular outfit uses, to make creative
>]or futuristic music.
>
>I don't think anyone of a decent intelligence would consider any
>particular instrument essential to good song-writing. use what feels best
>regardless of its age or stigma.
Agreed. However there are lots of technodroids who I've seen post to this
list and others asking what gear do group X use? When the fact is if
you're any good at music you can use any instrument to create original
ideas and learn things from even the most simple peaces of gear. Its
always better to get your own style than mimic someone elses.
quoted 3 lines ]The future of music lies in resistance & change!>]The future of music lies in resistance & change!
>
>you'll be waiting quite a while for the next time acoustic music changes.
If this is true perhaps this has something to do with the longevity of
acoustic genres, if there is such a thing. I was never talking about
acoustic genres in the first place but I'm so glad you thought to mention
it? What other tenuous associations have you pick out from my post?
quoted 2 lines it might not even happen at all, the way humanity seems to love its No>it might not even happen at all, the way humanity seems to love its No
>Doubt, its Blues Traveller, and its PUFF-fuckin-DADDY. so deal.
I don't know much about No Doubt and Blues Traveller, but Puff
Daddy/Notorious BIG have/had been around for years on the undeground
Hip-Hop scene (SHOCK HORROR!) before they made it big. I guess after you've
been a struggling artist for a while theres always the temptation to grab
as much filthy lucra as you can if the opportunity arises, some might even
say you have a right to. I think 'underground' music is finding its way
into the mainstream all the time and I think a there are a lot of
'underground' people who want to reject mainstream examples of their
favoured genres of music because they reckon most mainstream music lacks
credibility. Well that's up to them...
I'll say it once again, I'm not discussing 'electronic' music vs 'acoustic'
music, OR 'traditional instruments' vs 'machines'. Electronic music has its
roots in acoustic music and they co-exist, and they feed of each other,
they are not at war. Futhermore when it comes to traditional instruments or
machines??.. They are all instruments I was pointing out the limitations of
both and NOTHING else OK.
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Anthony Ewers
Recording Artist
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